[78-L] CDs with paper labels

[David Lennick]

As DB will confirm, HMV and other EMI 78s (and English Deccas) which were 
exported to North America when they were new sound unbelievably quiet, even 
after years of storage and broadcast use. Has anyone heard the suggestion that 
better shellac was used for these? Apart from the dampness factor, which is 
well known and confirmed by microscopic inspection.

Departing a little more from the topic, the other day I transferred some 
Bluebirds (US, buff label) which were as quiet as z-material Red Seals.

dl

On 2/3/2015 11:43 AM, DAVID BURNHAM wrote:
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> I think it is well known amongst collectors and is certainly consistent with my experience that British 78s, especially HMVs, have a lot more crackle than American 78s. Â I have acquired "new old stock" HMV sets, never played still in their packing crates from the ware house, looking pristine, which are noisier than RCA pressings of the same records which have been looked after but played regularly. However, I never attributed this to the environmental conditions, I just assumed it was the nature of the material of which they were made. Â Fortunately, this noise is addressed extremely well with CEDAR.
> db
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>       On Tuesday, February 3, 2015 11:11 AM, Joe Salerno<jsalerno at collector.org.invalid>  wrote:
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> Seems like we discuss this here quite some time ago, about how British
> 78s get noisy from humidity in the air or some such explanation. Since I
> don't live there I can't comment from experience. It was just a comparison.
>
> As far as CD failure goes, I think I have had more with pressed than
> burned, label or not.
>
> Joe Salerno
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> On 2/2/2015 11:21 PM, Dave Burnham wrote:
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>> I'm curious to know what storage condition issues there are with British 78s. I have about 40 or 50 thousand 78s in a self storage unit without any climate control, including, I'm sure, hundreds of British 78s and they endure the temperature extremes of South Ontario, which range from sub zero in the winter to very hot summers. So far, fingers crossed, I haven't witnessed any ill effects for the records. But I won't bring records indoors in the winter so they don't get exposed to a sudden temperature change. I would like to get these records into a climate controlled environment so that, if for no other reason, I have year round access to them.
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>> db
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Feb 2, 2015, at 11:37 PM, Joe Salerno<jsalerno at collector.org.invalid>  wrote:
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>>> I also have not had any problems yet. I wonder that the environment or
>>> storage conditions may have something to do with it? Like tapes with
>>> SSS, or British 78s.
>>>
>>> Joe Salerno
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>>>> On 2/2/2015 5:27 PM, John Wright wrote:
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>>>> Yesterday Rodger Holtin wrote: "a few weeks ago it was noted here that any
>>>> CD with a paper label more than ten years old is probably toast.  I checked
>>>> mine, and sure enough, all toast.  These were some I bought from the school,
>>>> lectures etc.  Our school library duped all their cassettes to CDs with
>>>> paper labels and tossed the cassettes".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, right now (in UK) I'm listening to, and regularly play, CDs that I
>>>> assembled in 2003-2004, and stuck on paper labels. Ambrose and Ray Noble
>>>> recordings from the tony projects, and programmes I recorded from BBC radio
>>>> (in those days they still broadcast pre-1940s music). These CDs still play
>>>> on the hi-fi CD player (2009), in the car (2009 model Audi) and on my PC and
>>>> laptop (2011 Dell).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> John
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>>>>