[78-L] Rock & Roll rising

[eugene hayhoe]

MANY musicians, no matter what the style, often pick up things they like from others and 'work them into' their own thing. More than once it has struck me how Presley seemed to pitch his vocal lines much as a 'one man vocal group,' would, that is emulating how different lines would come from different singers in different pitch ranges; one line (or part of a line) from the lower registers, the next from a higher one. Blue Moon and Blue Moon of Kentucky seem like a good example without dragging it out to listen to..

 
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On Wed, 3/19/14, Joe Scott <joenscott at mail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [78-L] Rock & Roll rising
 To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
 Date: Wednesday, March 19, 2014, 1:32 PM
 
 Since the only purpose of the
 expression "rhythm and blues" (a la "race" music and other
 terms) was to describe whatever music was currently most
 popular with blacks, of course some rhythm and blues was
 jazz sometimes and some rhythm and blues was rock and roll
 sometimes, or it could be "Sweet Georgia Brown" by Brother
 Bones or eventually "Papa's Got A Brand New Bag" once
 someone invented that sound or whatever else. That's why
 Chuck Berry could sing "dig these rhythm and blues" and
 about "rock" and "roll" in "Roll Over Beethoven," which was
 rhythm and blues and was rock and roll.
 Joseph Scott
 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Koen Kamphuijs & Gusta Harderwijk
 Sent: 03/18/14 03:40 PM
 To: 78-L Mail List
 Subject: Re: [78-L] Rock & Roll rising
 
 I wrote: >There have been zillions of discussions on the
 distinction between >Rhythm & Blues and Rock 'n Roll;
 or the lack of that; on what should >be considered the
 first rock 'n roll record; and more. Well - for as far as
 this discussion goes, it did prove the first sentence of my
 mail, and now we have zillions and a few more of them. One
 of the things that's sure - and that also helps fuel the
 discussion - that things are not as clear and simple as you
 can state in a few hundred words. There's nothing in this
 discussion that I don't second or have heard before, and I
 don't think it's really essential whether to call the new
 direction of late forties R&B rock 'n roll or not. I use
 the distinction that I made for myself, also to guide myself
 what to play and what not on my radio show - together with
 my own taste. It means that mainly I play what before '48
 was called "race music" and afterwards "Rhythm & Blues"
 and that my show's interest mainly (but not completely)
 starts i
  n the mid-thirties and ends in the mid-fifties. My choice
 automatically makes that nearly all on my show is from
 African-American musicians. I include very little swing,
 bebop, "modern" jazz and rock 'n roll-as-I-define-it. I
 favour raunchy down-to-earth blues lyrics over naive teenage
 love songs. Raw blues over polished pop songs. And I call
 the package Rhythm & Blues, knowing that half of it was
 before the term was coined, knowing that others include
 things I don't, and some call it either jazz or rock 'n
 roll. Koen _______________________________________________
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