[78-L] Rock & Roll about a half decade in

[Joe Scott]

The arrangement of Presley's "Mystery Train" is taken very faithfully from the arrangement of Junior Parker's "Love My Baby":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTLBUF8jLsM 
Parker's "Feelin' Good" is also worth a listen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IazbYCLSelo 
There was "the" Sun sound before Elvis met Scotty and Bill. But that's just what Sam Phillips famously said, he was looking for some white guy who could sound like these guys so he could get rich (not that Elvis really did sound like them, in Elvis's humble and accurate opinion). So there you go.
Scotty Moore has said that he listened to multiple R&B guitarists back then. More than one guitarist played on Junior Parker's Sun records, Pat Hare reportedly on "Love My Baby."
Elvis was often original in how he mixed styles, but some of the claims we sometimes see about his (and Sam Phillips', etc.) originality don't hold up at all if you know early '50s R&B anywhere close to as well as Elvis did. Elvis was honest about his influences (he said he thought the king of rock and roll was Fats Domino); it was some of his fans who created mythology.
Junior Parker died in 1971, Jimmy Smith ("Rock That Boogie") in 1966, Wynonie Harris in 1969, Tiny Bradshaw in 1958, Jimmy Preston joined the ministry and therefore didn't seek credit for making early rock and roll, some musicians such as Wild Bill Moore and Jay McNeely wanted to be seen as jazz musicians foremost, etc. Stuff like that is part of the reason some of these people didn't get written about in the '70s as much as people who still had r'n'r-associated careers to promote such as Fats Domino and Bill Haley (and therefore weren't mentioned much in the '80s-'90s books that copied the '70s writing).
Joseph Scott
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From: eugene hayhoe
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Aw, c'mon Erwin, listen to Junior Parker's Mystery Train. Now ''Blue Moon'' and "Tomorrow Night'' I might be able to agree with you on...OTOH, it often seems to me that 'Floyd Murphy was Scotty Moore's only influence on guitar.' James Burton's main early influence as well - just listen to all of the licks he copped from Floyd on those late 1950s Ricky Nelson records... Again, I'm not saying that I don't LIKE those records, just that 'almost all of the elements of the recording predated the recording.' -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 3/19/14, Erwin Kluwer <ekluwer at gmail.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [78-L] Rock & Roll rising (was: Escott, was Arnold Covey) To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com> Date: Wednesday, March 19, 2014, 9:32 AM Elvis best SUN ecording are no covers !!! These are complete muscial reworking and exist in their own universe... These only can be compared with the greatest master pieces in music (is Charlie Parker is also an imitator because KoKo is based on an already existing tune...) Anyone with a bit musical ears can hear there is actually no comparison with the original version possible... Nobody could dream up version of That's All Right or Bue Moon of Kentucky as this man of musical genius did.. On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Koen Kamphuijs & Gusta Harderwijk < koen at koenkamphuijs.nl> wrote: > At 13:53 19-3-2014, Erwin Kluwer wrote: > >Jackie Wilson: "blacks stole more form Elvis then the other way around.." > > Ask Arthur Crudup's opinion on that. > > -- > Koen > > _______________________________________________ > 78-L mailing list > 78-L at klickitat.78online.com > http://klickitat.78online.com/mailman/listinfo/78-l > _______________________________________________ 78-L mailing list 78-L at klickitat.78online.com http://klickitat.78online.com/mailman/listinfo/78-l _______________________________________________ 78-L mailing list 78-L at klickitat.78online.com http://klickitat.78online.com/mailman/listinfo/78-l