[78-L] Rock & Roll rising (was: Escott, was Arnold Covey)

[eugene hayhoe]

Oops, make that coaches...



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On Wed, 3/19/14, eugene hayhoe <jazzme48912 at yahoo.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [78-L] Rock & Roll rising (was: Escott, was Arnold Covey)
 To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
 Date: Wednesday, March 19, 2014, 8:45 AM
 
 ''The train I ride, 16 couches
 long...''
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghv498qwuiY
 Mystery Train, Junior Parker
 
 'Junior Parker, not particularly marketable to white teen
 girls in 1950s America,' LOL.
 
 As for the musical elements, 'they are all there.'
 
 
 
 
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 On Wed, 3/19/14, Erwin Kluwer <ekluwer at gmail.com>
 wrote:
 
  Subject: Re: [78-L] Rock & Roll rising (was: Escott,
 was Arnold Covey)
  To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
  Date: Wednesday, March 19, 2014, 8:34 AM
  
  to me rock n roll is almost more
  informed an attitude then a pure musical
  style;;
  
  and there was only ONE who had it ALL together in summer
 of
  1954 (the
  clothes,good looks,  the attitude, the moves, that NEW
  sound...a band
  sound  new so cool, streamlined..
  
  Elvis is man who started it..
  
  
  On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 6:46 PM, eugene hayhoe <jazzme48912 at yahoo.com>wrote:
  
  > And then, of course, going back to Sun, there are the
  numerous pre-Presley
  > Sun sides that were templates for late '60s
  'blues/rock' like James
  > Cotton's Cotton Crop Blues, Wolf's How Many More
 Years?
  and numerous of
  > Junior Parker's Sun recordings to name just a
  few.   From what I've read,
  > Hendrix's use of the name  'the Blue Flames' was
  in direct homage to Parker
  > and his records.
  >
  >
  > I'd also say 'let's not forget the Ravens' when it
  comes to 'r&b/country
  > crossover.'
  >
  > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQACHFa3SBU
  > Rooster
  >
  >
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  > On Tue, 3/18/14, Joe Scott <joenscott at mail.com>
  wrote:
  >
  >  Subject: Re: [78-L] Rock & Roll rising (was:
  Escott, was Arnold Covey)
  >  To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
  >  Date: Tuesday, March 18, 2014, 12:06 PM
  >
  >   ----- Original Message -----
  >  From: eugene hayhoe
  >  Sent: 03/17/14 05:53 PM
  >  To: 78-L Mail List
  >  Subject: Re: [78-L] Rock & Roll rising (was:
  Escott, was
  >  Arnold Covey)
  >
  >  Country's here, so is Wynonie -
  > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR_A4Su-TrI Hank
  Penny's
  >  Bloodshot EyesFrom a few years after their
  formation on,
  >  King assigned songs they controlled to artists
  without
  >  worrying about the origins of the songs (for
  financial
  >  reasons), which is something Louis Jordan had not
  been
  >  worrying about for years too. But there was
  rarely much
  >  "hillbilly" about the performances by the black
  artists in
  >  those situations during that period (as an aside,
  imo even
  >  Otis Blackwell's conscious attempts to sound
  somewhat
  >  hillbilly about '52 didn't sound all that
  >  hillbilly).Paralleling Cary's point that if a
  hillbilly band
  >  added a saxophonist, that's a clue they were
  interested in
  >  R&B, when a black band added
  hillbilly-associated
  >  instrumentation that was a clue they were
  interested in
  >  hillbilly music, e.g. steel guitar on Buddy
  Lucas's
  >  "Undecided" in about '51 -- but that approach was
  very rare
  >  in black music during '45-'49. E.g. there were
  tons of
  >  blacks who rememb
  >   ered how to play the fiddle as of the
  late '40s and the
  >  opportunity to do so on R&B records was
  almost zero, in
  >  contrast to greater use of fiddle back when Big
  Joe Williams
  >  began recording and earlier. Roy Milton recorded
  a nice
  >  "Along The Navajo Trail" in actual hillbillyish
  style
  >  (unlike e.g. Wynonie imo) in about '47, Specialty
  didn't
  >  bother to put it out at the time.Joseph Scott
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