[78-L] Rock & Roll rising (was: Escott, was Arnold Covey)

[eugene hayhoe]

''The train I ride, 16 couches long...''

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghv498qwuiY
Mystery Train, Junior Parker

'Junior Parker, not particularly marketable to white teen girls in 1950s America,' LOL.

As for the musical elements, 'they are all there.'




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On Wed, 3/19/14, Erwin Kluwer <ekluwer at gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [78-L] Rock & Roll rising (was: Escott, was Arnold Covey)
 To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
 Date: Wednesday, March 19, 2014, 8:34 AM
 
 to me rock n roll is almost more
 informed an attitude then a pure musical
 style;;
 
 and there was only ONE who had it ALL together in summer of
 1954 (the
 clothes,good looks,  the attitude, the moves, that NEW
 sound...a band
 sound  new so cool, streamlined..
 
 Elvis is man who started it..
 
 
 On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 6:46 PM, eugene hayhoe <jazzme48912 at yahoo.com>wrote:
 
 > And then, of course, going back to Sun, there are the
 numerous pre-Presley
 > Sun sides that were templates for late '60s
 'blues/rock' like James
 > Cotton's Cotton Crop Blues, Wolf's How Many More Years?
 and numerous of
 > Junior Parker's Sun recordings to name just a
 few.   From what I've read,
 > Hendrix's use of the name  'the Blue Flames' was
 in direct homage to Parker
 > and his records.
 >
 >
 > I'd also say 'let's not forget the Ravens' when it
 comes to 'r&b/country
 > crossover.'
 >
 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQACHFa3SBU
 > Rooster
 >
 >
 > --------------------------------------------
 > On Tue, 3/18/14, Joe Scott <joenscott at mail.com>
 wrote:
 >
 >  Subject: Re: [78-L] Rock & Roll rising (was:
 Escott, was Arnold Covey)
 >  To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
 >  Date: Tuesday, March 18, 2014, 12:06 PM
 >
 >   ----- Original Message -----
 >  From: eugene hayhoe
 >  Sent: 03/17/14 05:53 PM
 >  To: 78-L Mail List
 >  Subject: Re: [78-L] Rock & Roll rising (was:
 Escott, was
 >  Arnold Covey)
 >
 >  Country's here, so is Wynonie -
 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR_A4Su-TrI Hank
 Penny's
 >  Bloodshot EyesFrom a few years after their
 formation on,
 >  King assigned songs they controlled to artists
 without
 >  worrying about the origins of the songs (for
 financial
 >  reasons), which is something Louis Jordan had not
 been
 >  worrying about for years too. But there was
 rarely much
 >  "hillbilly" about the performances by the black
 artists in
 >  those situations during that period (as an aside,
 imo even
 >  Otis Blackwell's conscious attempts to sound
 somewhat
 >  hillbilly about '52 didn't sound all that
 >  hillbilly).Paralleling Cary's point that if a
 hillbilly band
 >  added a saxophonist, that's a clue they were
 interested in
 >  R&B, when a black band added
 hillbilly-associated
 >  instrumentation that was a clue they were
 interested in
 >  hillbilly music, e.g. steel guitar on Buddy
 Lucas's
 >  "Undecided" in about '51 -- but that approach was
 very rare
 >  in black music during '45-'49. E.g. there were
 tons of
 >  blacks who rememb
 >   ered how to play the fiddle as of the
 late '40s and the
 >  opportunity to do so on R&B records was
 almost zero, in
 >  contrast to greater use of fiddle back when Big
 Joe Williams
 >  began recording and earlier. Roy Milton recorded
 a nice
 >  "Along The Navajo Trail" in actual hillbillyish
 style
 >  (unlike e.g. Wynonie imo) in about '47, Specialty
 didn't
 >  bother to put it out at the time.Joseph Scott
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