[78-L] Is it really rarest blues record?, or, Troubled earth

[Joe Scott]

Hi Erwin,

The Patton-like general sound hasn't been nearly as influential on music more generally as we often see claimed. Howlin' Wolf was certainly very influenced by it (although the widely praised use of distortion by his guitarists, for instance, was in fact preceded by its routine use in the most popular R&B band of 1950, Johnny Otis's California-based band, which might have something do with Wolf recording "California Boogie" in 1951). B.B. King has pointed out that the musicians he admired most weren't from the Delta, and of course he indeed doesn't sound like Patton. The biggest sellers of the '30s in blues such as Lonnie Johnson, Tampa Red, Leroy Carr, Kokomo Arnold, and Bill Broonzy, participants in the boogie fad such as Albert Ammons, and swing bands more generally such as Count Basie's were the biggest influence on the jump blues sounds of Louis Jordan, Roy Milton, T-Bone Walker, and their peers, who were in turn the biggest influence on very late '40s and early '50s rock and roll such as Wynonie Harris's, Jimmy Preston's, Roy Brown's, Big Joe Turner's, and Bill Haley's -- which all had little to do with the likes of Muddy Waters. (Even Eric Clapton's sound was more influenced by the Texan Freddy King than by the Patton-like sound.)

Joseph Scott

----- Original Message -----
From: Erwin Kluwer
Sent: 08/27/13 03:02 PM
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Subject: Re: [78-L] Is it really rarest blues record?, or, Troubled earth

It sounds pedestrian to you because this sound has been totally absorbed/assimilated by music as it's know today... On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Joe Scott <joenscott at mail.com> wrote: > Hi Mike B, you wrote: > > "... what I find interesting is the Willie Brown record that does exist > and is posted. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WREOMLH2u > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WREOMLH2uI I > It seems very pedestrian and ordinary to me, not like what is said in the > article that nobody can play in his distinctive guitar style." > > Everybody who sounds the most like Charlie Patton is the most > "distinctive." Now do you understand? Alan Lomax wrote in 1947 that the > "Mississippi Delta" was the "great dark valley of the blues... where the > earth and the people are equally fertile and burdened with troubles," if > that helps. > > Joseph Scott > _______________________________________________ > 78-L mailing list > 78-L at klickitat.78online.com > http://klickitat.78online.com/mailman/listinfo/78-l > _______________________________________________ 78-L mailing list 78-L at klickitat.78online.com http://klickitat.78online.com/mailman/listinfo/78-l