[78-L] Varsity Classical LP ID

[David Lennick]

It would predate Willis Page. Probably a wartime tape or a dub from the 
anonymous set Obie had on Royale set 22, Masterpiece 12004/6 and Music 
Appreciation S104 (which I mistakenly referred to as "World's Greatest", but 
Obie did use those words on the labels to make people think they were getting 
the superior Victor-produced series). Another possibility is Jochum and the 
Concertgebouw, if Obie was still pirating Telefunken product. Or it could be 
something swiped off the air or lifted from a commercial issue, which was known 
to be the case with many Royale lps. (Solitaire did the same thing. Robert 
Angus believed that someone in Toronto was taping classical music off the CBC 
and sending the tapes out..some of them weren't even complete performances.)

dl

On 5/20/2013 10:19 AM, neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com wrote:
> I also have Mozart 40 on a 10" Concert Hall with Willis Page and a
> Boston group. I would have to dig it out for specifics. Couldn't say if
> it were a candidate for your list...
>
> joe salerno
>
>
> On 5/19/2013 3:06 AM, David Lewis wrote:
>> Well this strain of inquiry has led to some interesting sidelights that I'd like to share. It may just tell us something about just how bad
>> things are on the data front are in terms of classical recordings, but any light one may be able to cast on these matters would certainly be
>> welcome.
>>
>> Looking around at recordings of the Mozart G minor I developed a couple of ideas as to whom conductor of the "Radio Symphony Orchestra" might
>> be on Varsity 6977. Initially, I was looking at Carl Schuricht, who recorded it with the Paris Opera Orch. There is a Schuricht discography
>> on the web, which unfortunately lists only CD issues. It doesn't show a Mozart 40 until 1961 and no Paris Opera Orch. recordings until 1963.
>> http://freett.com/Schuricht/SchurichtCD.htm
>>
>> However, the listings I have found for this combination show issues on Concert Hall Society and Musical Masterpiece Society:
>> http://www.discogs.com/Mozart-Schuricht-Orchestra-Of-The-Paris-Opera-Mozart/release/3177937
>>
>> There is also Concert Hall AM 2258, Musical Masterpiece Society M 2258 (via other discogs entries); all bearing some variation of "2258" as
>> the stock number. When dated, these issues uniformly are located to the early 'sixties -- 1961, 1963 etc. However, this page makes clear that
>> in order for the releases to be on Concert Hall/MMS at all, they would have to have been recorded before 1956:
>> http://www.soundfountain.com/concert-hall/concerthall.html
>>
>> I had suggested in my first post that I suspected Otto Ackermann as a candidate. He was the first conductor to record most of the Mozart
>> symphonies; with the Netherlands Philharmonic he recorded 1-29, 31-36 and 38 through 41. The Long Beach Public Library collection -- now
>> dispersed -- contained a set of LP reissues of these recordings on the Rarities Collection label, which I encountered in the 90s. Ackermann's
>> reading of the Symphony No. 25 in G minor is particularly noteworthy. All of these Rarities Collection releases were sourced -- again --
>> from recordings issued originally on Concert Hall or Musical Masterpiece Society around 1953. I could not find an individual release for
>> Symphony 40 with Ackermann on those labels, but it is listed as part of a multi-LP set issued by Concert Hall containing "Symphonies 1-41"
>> though we know that it would be missing 30 and 37. From the Rarities Collection albums I gathered that the original recordings were all
>> made around 1950. I have no idea if this was an actual set or just single albums cobbled together in a WorldCat entry.
>>
>> I do not believe that even Obie would be so ballsy as to copy something from a currently available Concert Hall Society disc for release
>> on Varsity, though I guess anything is possible. But I can see that he may have been able to access a tape of Mozart 40, were it around
>> in Europe, for release before Concert Hall Society got hold of it and released it legitimately, especially if it was part of a long,
>> extended recording program that was not quite finished. That still doesn't explain who made the recording on Varsity 6977. It's kind of
>> a scarce disc, actually -- only three libraries in WorldCat seem to have it.
>>
>> If anyone out there could send, or connect me somehow, with samples for either the Schuricht or Ackermann recordings of the Mozart 40
>> I would be grateful. And who knows? Perhaps Varsity 6977 is neither of them.
>>
>> Uncle Dave Lewis
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