[78-L] Varsity Classical LP ID

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Mon May 20 07:19:09 PDT 2013


I also have Mozart 40 on a 10" Concert Hall with Willis Page and a 
Boston group. I would have to dig it out for specifics. Couldn't say if 
it were a candidate for your list...

joe salerno


On 5/19/2013 3:06 AM, David Lewis wrote:
> Well this strain of inquiry has led to some interesting sidelights that I'd like to share. It may just tell us something about just how bad
> things are on the data front are in terms of classical recordings, but any light one may be able to cast on these matters would certainly be
> welcome.
>
> Looking around at recordings of the Mozart G minor I developed a couple of ideas as to whom conductor of the "Radio Symphony Orchestra" might
> be on Varsity 6977. Initially, I was looking at Carl Schuricht, who recorded it with the Paris Opera Orch. There is a Schuricht discography
> on the web, which unfortunately lists only CD issues. It doesn't show a Mozart 40 until 1961 and no Paris Opera Orch. recordings until 1963.
> http://freett.com/Schuricht/SchurichtCD.htm
>
> However, the listings I have found for this combination show issues on Concert Hall Society and Musical Masterpiece Society:
> http://www.discogs.com/Mozart-Schuricht-Orchestra-Of-The-Paris-Opera-Mozart/release/3177937
>
> There is also Concert Hall AM 2258, Musical Masterpiece Society M 2258 (via other discogs entries); all bearing some variation of "2258" as
> the stock number. When dated, these issues uniformly are located to the early 'sixties -- 1961, 1963 etc. However, this page makes clear that
> in order for the releases to be on Concert Hall/MMS at all, they would have to have been recorded before 1956:
> http://www.soundfountain.com/concert-hall/concerthall.html
>
> I had suggested in my first post that I suspected Otto Ackermann as a candidate. He was the first conductor to record most of the Mozart
> symphonies; with the Netherlands Philharmonic he recorded 1-29, 31-36 and 38 through 41. The Long Beach Public Library collection -- now
> dispersed -- contained a set of LP reissues of these recordings on the Rarities Collection label, which I encountered in the 90s. Ackermann's
> reading of the Symphony No. 25 in G minor is particularly noteworthy. All of these Rarities Collection releases were sourced -- again --
> from recordings issued originally on Concert Hall or Musical Masterpiece Society around 1953. I could not find an individual release for
> Symphony 40 with Ackermann on those labels, but it is listed as part of a multi-LP set issued by Concert Hall containing "Symphonies 1-41"
> though we know that it would be missing 30 and 37. From the Rarities Collection albums I gathered that the original recordings were all
> made around 1950. I have no idea if this was an actual set or just single albums cobbled together in a WorldCat entry.
>
> I do not believe that even Obie would be so ballsy as to copy something from a currently available Concert Hall Society disc for release
> on Varsity, though I guess anything is possible. But I can see that he may have been able to access a tape of Mozart 40, were it around
> in Europe, for release before Concert Hall Society got hold of it and released it legitimately, especially if it was part of a long,
> extended recording program that was not quite finished. That still doesn't explain who made the recording on Varsity 6977. It's kind of
> a scarce disc, actually -- only three libraries in WorldCat seem to have it.
>
> If anyone out there could send, or connect me somehow, with samples for either the Schuricht or Ackermann recordings of the Mozart 40
> I would be grateful. And who knows? Perhaps Varsity 6977 is neither of them.
>
> Uncle Dave Lewis
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