[78-L] Ted Wilson Musicraft pressings WAS Casa Loma "White Jazz"

David Lennick dlennick at sympatico.ca
Wed Aug 22 21:46:31 PDT 2012


Hmm..having been napping for the last hour or so (occupational hazard among us 
old kucks) I can't remember if I actually have the Goldentone issue or have 
just seen it (I've had the 78 set for years and transferred the Parlophones, 
hoping they'd be better). The echoey lp I'm thinking of may be the Eddie Cantor 
Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee.

dl

On 8/23/2012 12:40 AM, David Lennick wrote:
> I have it on some budget label with a ton of echo, and possibly something by
> Milton Cross on the reverse. The Bill Korst Shaw discography says it's on
> Goldentone and doesn't give a number.
>
> dl
>
> On 8/22/2012 11:13 PM, djwein wrote:
>> Was THE PIED PIPER ever issued on an Allegro/Elite LP?
>>
>> Save Weiner
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
>> [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of David Lennick
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:25 AM
>> To: 78-L Mail List
>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Ted Wilson Musicraft pressings WAS Casa Loma "White
>> Jazz"
>>
>> By the way, the Parlophone issue of Pied Piper was cut at a much lower level
>>
>> than the original (no doubt to appease the Brits who were still using thorn
>> needles and acoustic machines) and the surfaces were nothing to write home
>> about. At least the American pressing is loud enough to drown out the
>> mixture
>> of asphalt and camel poop. A lot of Musicrafts were reissued by MGM and
>> Allegro, and even the Allegro lps can sound better if they're taken from the
>>
>> original 16" lacquers.
>>
>> dl
>>
>> On 8/22/2012 8:28 AM, David Lennick wrote:
>>> Artie Shaw's Pied Piper was issued on English Parlophone, and dubbed from
>>> something..can't imagine that 16" originals from Radio Recorders would
>> have
>>> been shipped to EMI. Musicraft and Parlophone did have an exchange for a
>> while,
>>> with Musicraft getting classical material.
>>>
>>> dl
>>>
>>> On 8/22/2012 8:10 AM, Julian Vein wrote:
>>>> I don't have any on 78, but have a few on Musicraft LPs and CD. There is
>>>> a little fuzziness, but they sound like they were dubbed from another
>>>> source (16" lacquers?), which were slightly worn. I don't think any of
>>>> the TW solos were issued on British Parlophone, although some of the
>>>> band sides were.
>>>>           Julian Vein
>>>> ===================
>>>>
>>>> On 22/08/12 12:55, Tim Huskisson wrote:
>>>>> Hello Inigo,
>>>>> I can't find any evidence that these sides were issued on (British)
>>>>> Parlophone. Do you happen to have catalogue numbers for any of them?
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim Huskisson
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
>>>>> [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of Iñigo Cubillo
>>>>> Sent: 22 August 2012 08:40
>>>>> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
>>>>> Subject: [78-L] Ted Wilson Musicraft pressings WAS Casa Loma "White
>> Jazz"
>>>>>
>>>>> I've always quivered about another similar general fuzziness....
>>>>> I love Ted Wilson's piano playing, and the marvelous 1946 recordings of
>>>>> Musicraft set TEDDY WILSON PLAYS #N7, records #369 to #372,
>>>>> matrixes:
>>>>> 4 om 5461
>>>>> 3 om 5462 b
>>>>> 4 om 5463
>>>>> 5 om 5464
>>>>> 3 om 5476
>>>>> 4 om 5477
>>>>> 2 om 5478 a
>>>>> 4 om 5480
>>>>>
>>>>> All them have a strange fuzzy sound, at least in my Musicraft late
>>>>> pressings, which are indeed in a strange shellac-ish material not well
>>>>> tolerated by bamboo needles.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone have noticed this problem?
>>>>>
>>>>> These records were imported into UK and issued in Parlophone, and also
>> in
>>>>> spanish Odeon (EMI product) with a better shellac quality and I think,
>>>>> better sound.
>>>>> But they seem to be dubs, and the original matrix nos. are not
>> visible...
>>>>> I don't know who made the dubs... if they were made in the UK or in
>> Spain,
>>>>> as I own some of the the spanish Odeons only.
>>>>> anyway, dubs made by EMI Spain carried TI, TII... and so on indicators,
>> and
>>>>> these don't show this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pity that my Odeon (better than Musicraft) pressing of Strange Interlude
>> got
>>>>> broken in the silliest of ways...
>>>>>
>>>>> Temporarily parked in Provence, France,
>>>>> Inigo Cubillo
>>>>>
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