[78-L] Ted Wilson Musicraft pressings WAS Casa Loma "White Jazz"

David Lennick dlennick at sympatico.ca
Wed Aug 22 21:40:35 PDT 2012


I have it on some budget label with a ton of echo, and possibly something by 
Milton Cross on the reverse. The Bill Korst Shaw discography says it's on 
Goldentone and doesn't give a number.

dl

On 8/22/2012 11:13 PM, djwein wrote:
> Was THE PIED PIPER ever issued on an Allegro/Elite LP?
>
> Save Weiner
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
> [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of David Lennick
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:25 AM
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> Subject: Re: [78-L] Ted Wilson Musicraft pressings WAS Casa Loma "White
> Jazz"
>
> By the way, the Parlophone issue of Pied Piper was cut at a much lower level
>
> than the original (no doubt to appease the Brits who were still using thorn
> needles and acoustic machines) and the surfaces were nothing to write home
> about. At least the American pressing is loud enough to drown out the
> mixture
> of asphalt and camel poop. A lot of Musicrafts were reissued by MGM and
> Allegro, and even the Allegro lps can sound better if they're taken from the
>
> original 16" lacquers.
>
> dl
>
> On 8/22/2012 8:28 AM, David Lennick wrote:
>> Artie Shaw's Pied Piper was issued on English Parlophone, and dubbed from
>> something..can't imagine that 16" originals from Radio Recorders would
> have
>> been shipped to EMI. Musicraft and Parlophone did have an exchange for a
> while,
>> with Musicraft getting classical material.
>>
>> dl
>>
>> On 8/22/2012 8:10 AM, Julian Vein wrote:
>>> I don't have any on 78, but have a few on Musicraft LPs and CD. There is
>>> a little fuzziness, but they sound like they were dubbed from another
>>> source (16" lacquers?), which were slightly worn. I don't think any of
>>> the TW solos were issued on British Parlophone, although some of the
>>> band sides were.
>>>          Julian Vein
>>> ===================
>>>
>>> On 22/08/12 12:55, Tim Huskisson wrote:
>>>> Hello Inigo,
>>>> I can't find any evidence that these sides were issued on (British)
>>>> Parlophone. Do you happen to have catalogue numbers for any of them?
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks
>>>>
>>>> Tim Huskisson
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
>>>> [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of Iñigo Cubillo
>>>> Sent: 22 August 2012 08:40
>>>> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
>>>> Subject: [78-L] Ted Wilson Musicraft pressings WAS Casa Loma "White
> Jazz"
>>>>
>>>> I've always quivered about another similar general fuzziness....
>>>> I love Ted Wilson's piano playing, and the marvelous 1946 recordings of
>>>> Musicraft set TEDDY WILSON PLAYS #N7, records #369 to #372,
>>>> matrixes:
>>>> 4 om 5461
>>>> 3 om 5462 b
>>>> 4 om 5463
>>>> 5 om 5464
>>>> 3 om 5476
>>>> 4 om 5477
>>>> 2 om 5478 a
>>>> 4 om 5480
>>>>
>>>> All them have a strange fuzzy sound, at least in my Musicraft late
>>>> pressings, which are indeed in a strange shellac-ish material not well
>>>> tolerated by bamboo needles.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have noticed this problem?
>>>>
>>>> These records were imported into UK and issued in Parlophone, and also
> in
>>>> spanish Odeon (EMI product) with a better shellac quality and I think,
>>>> better sound.
>>>> But they seem to be dubs, and the original matrix nos. are not
> visible...
>>>> I don't know who made the dubs... if they were made in the UK or in
> Spain,
>>>> as I own some of the the spanish Odeons only.
>>>> anyway, dubs made by EMI Spain carried TI, TII... and so on indicators,
> and
>>>> these don't show this.
>>>>
>>>> Pity that my Odeon (better than Musicraft) pressing of Strange Interlude
> got
>>>> broken in the silliest of ways...
>>>>
>>>> Temporarily parked in Provence, France,
>>>> Inigo Cubillo
>>>>


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