[78-L] Unusually long 78RPM sides

Milan P Milovanovic milanpmilovanovic4 at gmail.com
Thu Nov 10 17:58:55 PST 2011


Was variable pitch invented after introducing magnetophone as mastering 
source?
Were there ever directly cut lacquer with variable groove spacing?

Thnaks,

Milan


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From: "Royal Pemberton" <ampex354 at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [78-L] Unusually long 78RPM sides


> So this record has the larger label size usually found on pre-1930 
> records,
> not the smaller more or less 3" label first used on longer records and 
> then
> later adopted as standard?  Those grooves must be rather like those on a
> Polydor 10" 78 I have from the early 1950s, a pair of medleys by Lale
> Andersen.  Both sides are well over 5 minutes long, cut with variable
> pitch, and with grooving fine enough that they could have easily got 6
> minutes on each side.
>
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 8:22 PM, David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca> 
> wrote:
>
>> Forgot to mention that this is a ten-incher, Columbia 5341.
>>
>> There will now be a pause for Mike Biel to say "It just SEEMS like ten
>> minutes."
>>
>> On 11/7/2011 3:19 PM, David Lennick wrote:
>> > We've discussed this many times, and double-length 78 playing times 
>> > were
>> common
>> > in the 50s..as well as in the early 30s with Hit Of The Week and
>> Columbia's
>> > Longer Playing Records. But I've never encountered an English Columbia
>> side
>> > from the 1920s that pushes 10 minutes until now, especially since UK
>> Columbia
>> > in particular went to rather shorter sides when electrical recording
>> came in
>> > (causing Holst to conduct his Planets much faster than he had on the
>> acoustical
>> > version). A pair of electioneering speeches by Ramsay MacDonald in 1929
>> runs
>> > 4:50 and 4:56 and they didn't have to shrink the labels.
>> >
>> > dl
>> >
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