[78-L] Unusually long 78RPM sides

David Lennick dlennick at sympatico.ca
Thu Nov 10 19:20:14 PST 2011


Columbia was using a form of variable pitch around 1937. As far as I know, they 
weren't dubbing the sides so I don't know how it worked or how long it was in 
use. You can see it on the Maurice Evans RICHARD II set.

dl

On 11/10/2011 8:58 PM, Milan P Milovanovic wrote:
> Was variable pitch invented after introducing magnetophone as mastering
> source?
> Were there ever directly cut lacquer with variable groove spacing?
>
> Thnaks,
>
> Milan
>
>
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>> So this record has the larger label size usually found on pre-1930
>> records,
>> not the smaller more or less 3" label first used on longer records and
>> then
>> later adopted as standard?  Those grooves must be rather like those on a
>> Polydor 10" 78 I have from the early 1950s, a pair of medleys by Lale
>> Andersen.  Both sides are well over 5 minutes long, cut with variable
>> pitch, and with grooving fine enough that they could have easily got 6
>> minutes on each side.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 8:22 PM, David Lennick<dlennick at sympatico.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Forgot to mention that this is a ten-incher, Columbia 5341.
>>>
>>> There will now be a pause for Mike Biel to say "It just SEEMS like ten
>>> minutes."
>>>
>>> On 11/7/2011 3:19 PM, David Lennick wrote:
>>>> We've discussed this many times, and double-length 78 playing times
>>>> were
>>> common
>>>> in the 50s..as well as in the early 30s with Hit Of The Week and
>>> Columbia's
>>>> Longer Playing Records. But I've never encountered an English Columbia
>>> side
>>>> from the 1920s that pushes 10 minutes until now, especially since UK
>>> Columbia
>>>> in particular went to rather shorter sides when electrical recording
>>> came in
>>>> (causing Holst to conduct his Planets much faster than he had on the
>>> acoustical
>>>> version). A pair of electioneering speeches by Ramsay MacDonald in 1929
>>> runs
>>>> 4:50 and 4:56 and they didn't have to shrink the labels.
>>>>
>>>> dl
>>>>


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