[78-L] Dean Martin Question - New Tilme-Life DVD

Thu Aug 18 13:15:25 PDT 2011

BTW, I notice on ePay a 30-DVD set being offered for $140.  Sellers are in CANADA.
I asked if these were DVD-R and received NO response.
Anyone know if these are bootlegs, or is Guthy-Renker adjusting to the Time-Life release(s)???

Best wishes, Thomas.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Sultanof
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 9:06 PM
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Thank you to all who responded and posted links. These have all been very
helpful.

Jeff Sultanof

On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Thomas Stern <sternth at attglobal.net> wrote:

>
> here is some more specific information:
>
> http://thegolddiggers.wordpress.com/2011/04/03/an-exclusive-preview-of-the-new-dean-martin-show-dvd-sets/
>
> Best wishes, Thomas.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
> [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com]On Behalf Of Thomas Stern
> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 8:36 PM
> To: 78-L Mail List
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Dean Martin Question - New Tilme-Life DVD
>
>
>
> this from ASK.COM:
>  From 2003 until August 2007, a 29-volume Best of The Dean Martin Variety
> Show collection was sold by direct marketing firm
> Guthy-Renker via infomercials and a website.
>
> In mid-2007, NBC Universal filed suit in U.S. District Court against
> several parties, including Guthy-Renker, claiming copyright
> infringement, forcing G-R to temporarily withdraw the DVDs from sale.[4]
> The lawsuit was in regard to a dispute over rights to
> footage used in the DVD series , material to which NBC claimed it still
> held the copyright.[4] The conflict was discovered when
> NBC Universal looked into plans to release its own DVD set.
>
> Also named as one of the defendants in the lawsuit was longtime Dean Martin
> Show producer Greg Garrison, who, NBC claims, had
> rights to use only excerpts from selected episodes of The Dean Martin
> Show[4] for the DVDs-episodes which, according to NBC,
> Garrison purchased years earlier from the network for a syndicated run of
> The Dean Martin Show that aired worldwide from 1979 to
> 1981. Garrison died in 2005, before the lawsuit was brought forward.[5]
>
> A settlement among all of the parties to the suit was reached on January 2,
> 2008. As a consequence, the Guthy-Renker website once
> again began selling the collection, and infomercials advertising it
> returned to the small screen.[6]
>
> There remain two other lawsuits pending over rights to material used in the
> Best of Dean Martin Variety Show series, but neither
> of those suits affected sales of the home video collection[7]
>
> Unaffected by legal disputes were the Dean Martin Celebrity Roast specials,
> which continue to be marketed on DVD by Guthy-Renker.
> Total revenues from Dean Martin DVD sales have been rumored to be in the
> hundreds of millions of dollars. The Martin shows have
> not been on television since their original telecasts.
>
> On February 3, 2011, it was revealed that a brand new package of DVDs
> featuring footage from The Dean Martin Show would be
> released on May 24, 2011 by Time-Life Video. Unlike the earlier
> Guthy-Renker collection, which was marketed via mail order
> subscription, these new sets would be aimed largely at the retail sector.
> [8]
>
> On March 21, 2011, NBC Universal TV Consumer Products Group issued a press
> release disclosing its participation with Time-Life on
> the project.[9]
>
> On April 3, 2011, more details emerged about the content of the new DVDs,
> including:
>
> 1) what guest stars would be featured, and from which original episodes the
> footage would be taken[10];
>
> 2) the fact that the new products - unlike the older ones from Guthy-Renker
> that featured a mix of bits and pieces drawn from
> various episodes and seasons of The Dean Martin Show - would be arranged by
> individual episodes (albeit edited ones)[10];
>
> 3) the fact that NBC and Time-Life hold the rights to release additional
> volumes of Dean Martin Show material in the future[10];
>
> 4) the fact that although Greg Garrison Productions has no involvement in
> the production of the new DVD sets, its partnership with
> Guthy-Renker has been permitted to continue to sell the 29 volumes of Dean
> Martin Show footage that G-R has already produced[10].
>
> In an online report posted July 9, 2011, Deana Martin, one of Dean's
> daughters, told columnists Marilyn Beck and Stacy Jenel Smith
> that the first sets of Dean Martin Show DVDs released by Time-Life in the
> late Spring had sold so well that a second collection
> was already being planned, and that she (Deana) would be contributing
> commentary to it.[11]This information has been independently
> confirmed by officials at both Time-Life and NBCUniversal.[12]
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
> [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com]On Behalf Of Steve Ramm
> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 8:27 PM
> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Dean Martin Question - New Tilme-Life DVD
>
>
>
> I don't have the Guthy Renker set but I do have new 6-DVD set and frankly I
> was disapointed. It's only exceprts and there are
> virtually no solo Deans. They spend a lot of time on the comedy. The think
> that made this different than the G-R set is that these
> are grouped by show. There is the opening and then from 18 -35 minutes of a
> show and then the final credits (so you can see who
> was edited out). The G-R are just excepts in no sequence.
>
> The quality of the image varies too. Just my opinion.
>
> Steve
>
>
> > From: sternth at attglobal.net
> > To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> > Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 16:47:58 -0400
> > Subject: Re: [78-L] Dean Martin Question
> >
> > I've seen the Time-Life set at COSTCO, about $5 per dvd (a 6 DVD package
> for $30).
> > The Guthy Renker seems to me to be a rip-off - outrageously overpriced.
> > They seem to draw on the same material, but I haven't done a segment by
> segment comparison.
> > There is a Woody Allen performance on both that is the same.
> >
> > Do you have a contents list for the Guthy Renker material? I think the
> Time Life
> > segments are listed on their website.
> >
> > Best wishes, Thomas.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
> > [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Sultanof
> > Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 4:38 PM
> > To: 78-L Mail List
> > Subject: [78-L] Dean Martin Question
> >
> >
> > I hope there are one or two Dean Martin fans out there who can answer
> this
> > question.
> >
> > Guthy-Renker currently sells DVDs of the Best of the Dean Martin Show, 29
> > DVDs in all (I'm not talking here about the roasts). Supposedly producer
> > Greg Garrison purchased several segments of the show from NBC and created
> > these DVDs from those segments.
> >
> > There is now a set from Time-Life of Dean Martin Show excerpts. Can
> anyone
> > tell me if these are comprised of different material from the
> Guthy-Renker
> > series, or do they draw from the same episodes?
> >
> > Many thanks,
> > Jeff
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