[78-L] Greatest addicts

[buster]

1.  That there were no Grammy awards in bix's day

2.  That the Grammy award is commercial rather than merit-based

On Jul 23, 2011, at 12:33 PM, David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> And she won 5 Grammys..how many did Bix win? And what does this tell you?
> 
> dl
> 
> On 7/23/2011 3:31 PM, Erwin Kluwer wrote:
>>  I agree that she was 'repellant' with her tattoos and piercings and
>>> general presence -- drunkenness and drugged out. To some of 'our
>>> generation' this is rather disgusting, but apparently not to her
>>> peers.
>> 
>> Among the greatest (read: intake and muscial talent) drunks and drugs users
>> were:
>> 
>> Bessie Smith
>> 
>> Billy Holiday
>> 
>> Hank Williams
>> 
>> Charlie Parker
>> 
>> Johnny Cash
>> 
>> Jerry Lee lewis
>> 
>> Jussi Bjorling
>> 
>> Charley Patton
>> 
>> Son House
>> 
>> Bix Beiderbecke
>> 
>> Charlie Poole
>> 
>> John Coltrane
>> 
>> Bix Beiderbecke
>> 
>> 
>> "Our"   and olders generations don't seem to be bothered by it too
>> much...since these were all true musical geniuses..
>> 
>> 
>> Erwin
>> On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 9:12 PM, buster<busterdog at mac.com>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Not really all that different from Bix or many others. Whatever greatness
>>> was there will be magnified by early death.
>>> 
>>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 12:05 PM, Tom<nice_guy_with_an_mba at yahoo.com>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> <<  To a very big extent, I think that the evil that is the music biz
>>>> <<  today simply chewed her up and spit her out and really didn't
>>>> <<  give a  rat's a$$ about her destructive nature or their part in
>>>> <<  sustaining it.>>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> All of the problems Amy Winehouse had are problems she created
>>>> for herself.
>>>> 
>>>> It would have been more appropriate and credible for her mother
>>>> and father to have intervened on their daughter's behalf and have
>>>> had Ms. Winehouse sent to rehab for some fairly extended period
>>>> of time rather than expecting the VP of Finance at her record label
>>>> to do so, though apparently even they -- i.e., her parents, not the
>>>> record label execs -- viewed the situation as hopeless.
>>>> 
>>>> If someone's really hellbent on destroying themselves it's kinda
>>>> hard to prevent them from doing so.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: agp<agp2176 at verizon.net>
>>>> To: 78-L Mail List<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 2:51 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Amy Winehouse
>>>> 
>>>> At 18:25 23/07/2011, CG wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> She'll be exploded into a musical media martyr now, no matter what
>>>>> the quality of her work was (I was not a fan; in fact, I was kind of
>>>>> repelled by her).
>>>> 
>>>> On a peer basis she was far better than drivel on the radio today.
>>>> One may argue that this is not saying much. I always felt that her
>>>> voice had a 'blues/soul/ r&b' tint to it and that with the right
>>>> direction could have matured to be part of many genre.
>>>> 
>>>> I agree that she was 'repellant' with her tattoos and piercings and
>>>> general presence -- drunkenness and drugged out. To some of 'our
>>>> generation' this is rather disgusting, but apparently not to her
>>>> peers. I have to wonder how many of us would have reacted to, say,
>>>> Billie Holiday, given a similar environment.
>>>> 
>>>> To a very big extent, I think that the evil that is the music biz
>>>> today simply chewed her up and spit her out and really didn't give a
>>>> rat's a$$ about her destructive nature or their part in sustaining it.
>>>> 
>>>> T
>>>> 
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