[78-L] Greatest addicts
David Lennick
dlennick at sympatico.ca
Sat Jul 23 12:33:53 PDT 2011
And she won 5 Grammys..how many did Bix win? And what does this tell you?
dl
On 7/23/2011 3:31 PM, Erwin Kluwer wrote:
> I agree that she was 'repellant' with her tattoos and piercings and
>> general presence -- drunkenness and drugged out. To some of 'our
>> generation' this is rather disgusting, but apparently not to her
>> peers.
>
> Among the greatest (read: intake and muscial talent) drunks and drugs users
> were:
>
> Bessie Smith
>
> Billy Holiday
>
> Hank Williams
>
> Charlie Parker
>
> Johnny Cash
>
> Jerry Lee lewis
>
> Jussi Bjorling
>
> Charley Patton
>
> Son House
>
> Bix Beiderbecke
>
> Charlie Poole
>
> John Coltrane
>
> Bix Beiderbecke
>
>
> "Our" and olders generations don't seem to be bothered by it too
> much...since these were all true musical geniuses..
>
>
> Erwin
> On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 9:12 PM, buster<busterdog at mac.com> wrote:
>
>> Not really all that different from Bix or many others. Whatever greatness
>> was there will be magnified by early death.
>>
>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 12:05 PM, Tom<nice_guy_with_an_mba at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> << To a very big extent, I think that the evil that is the music biz
>>> << today simply chewed her up and spit her out and really didn't
>>> << give a rat's a$$ about her destructive nature or their part in
>>> << sustaining it.>>
>>>
>>>
>>> All of the problems Amy Winehouse had are problems she created
>>> for herself.
>>>
>>> It would have been more appropriate and credible for her mother
>>> and father to have intervened on their daughter's behalf and have
>>> had Ms. Winehouse sent to rehab for some fairly extended period
>>> of time rather than expecting the VP of Finance at her record label
>>> to do so, though apparently even they -- i.e., her parents, not the
>>> record label execs -- viewed the situation as hopeless.
>>>
>>> If someone's really hellbent on destroying themselves it's kinda
>>> hard to prevent them from doing so.
>>>
>>>
>>> From: agp<agp2176 at verizon.net>
>>> To: 78-L Mail List<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 2:51 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Amy Winehouse
>>>
>>> At 18:25 23/07/2011, CG wrote:
>>>
>>>> She'll be exploded into a musical media martyr now, no matter what
>>>> the quality of her work was (I was not a fan; in fact, I was kind of
>>>> repelled by her).
>>>
>>> On a peer basis she was far better than drivel on the radio today.
>>> One may argue that this is not saying much. I always felt that her
>>> voice had a 'blues/soul/ r&b' tint to it and that with the right
>>> direction could have matured to be part of many genre.
>>>
>>> I agree that she was 'repellant' with her tattoos and piercings and
>>> general presence -- drunkenness and drugged out. To some of 'our
>>> generation' this is rather disgusting, but apparently not to her
>>> peers. I have to wonder how many of us would have reacted to, say,
>>> Billie Holiday, given a similar environment.
>>>
>>> To a very big extent, I think that the evil that is the music biz
>>> today simply chewed her up and spit her out and really didn't give a
>>> rat's a$$ about her destructive nature or their part in sustaining it.
>>>
>>> T
>>>
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