[78-L] the 'deadest' consumer audio formats?

David Lennick dlennick at sympatico.ca
Sat May 14 13:46:34 PDT 2011


This may be the ultimate grouping of recording devices:
http://www.videointerchange.com/audio_history.htm

But of course it won't be.

dl

On 5/14/2011 4:27 PM, David Lennick wrote:
> And Soundscriber, which came up here a couple of weeks ago:
> http://www.aph.org/museum/virtual_exhibit/exhibit4/e40008b-2.htm
> Here's lovely Joan Crawford dictating the day's torture of her kids:
> http://www.joancrawfordbest.com/adsoundscriber62big.htm
> Here's one you won't find in the average living room, but I remember one in use
> as a logger at CKEY:
> http://www.historyofwowo.com/soundscriber.html
>
> dl
>
> On 5/14/2011 4:22 PM, Milan P Milovanovic wrote:
>> How about dictaphone with record alike magnetic discs (pictures shown here):
>>
>> http://images.kupujemprodajem.com/photos/oglasi/1/31/33531/big-33531_0-0-1.jpg
>> http://images.kupujemprodajem.com/photos/oglasi/1/31/33531/big-33531_DSCN3624-2.jpg
>> http://images.kupujemprodajem.com/photos/oglasi/1/31/33531/big-33531_DSCN3629-4.jpg
>> http://images.kupujemprodajem.com/photos/oglasi/1/31/33531/big-33531_3-5.jpg
>> http://images.kupujemprodajem.com/photos/oglasi/1/31/33531/big-33531_4-6.jpg
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mike Daley"<mikedaley at gmail.com>
>> To: "78-L Mail List"<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 9:38 PM
>> Subject: [78-L] the 'deadest' consumer audio formats?
>>
>>
>>> If I had to guess, the most "obsolete" (keeping in mind that this is an
>>> arguable term) consumer audio formats (in order) would be:
>>>
>>> reel-to-reel tape (bonus points for quadrophonic)
>>> 8-track
>>> cassettes
>>> 78s
>>> vinyl 45s
>>> vinyl LPs
>>> CDs
>>>
>>> I'm sure I left out a few...but yes, I would place 78s as "less dead" than
>>> cassettes. I'm judging this partly on the ready availability of working
>>> machines to play these formats. I wouldn't even put DATs and minidiscs in
>>> the running - I never saw them find much of a foothold at all in the
>>> consumer market.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 3:27 PM, David Lennick
>>> <dlennick at sympatico.ca>wrote:
>>>
>>>> You'd be surprised..
>>>>
>>>> dl
>>>>
>>>> On 5/13/2011 3:17 PM, Mike Daley wrote:
>>>>> People still use cassettes?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Julian
>>>>> Vein<julianvein at blueyonder.co.uk
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dave at Audio Tech Transfer wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Most customers want to know up front what the cost will be, thus the
>>>> set
>>>>>>> price per tape or record.   It's easy and understandable for the
>>>>>> customer,
>>>>>>> who more often than not doesn't know whether their home videotapes
>>>>>>> run
>>>> 15
>>>>>>> minutes or 2 hours?  It's painful doing a big stack of 2 hour
>>>>>>> tapes....
>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> the pile of 10-15 minute tapes in the next job make up for it.  Open
>>>> reel
>>>>>>> audio tape and some VHS can be impossible to predict due to
>>>>>> record/playback
>>>>>>> speed used, let the customer know that upfront.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dave Rose
>>>>>>> Audio Tech Transfer
>>>>>> ===============
>>>>>> The worst type of friend (sic) is the one who has some LPs but nothing
>>>>>> to play them on. So they ask me if they give me some cassettes could
>>>>>> they transfer them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not that easy. The first side of the LP is OK, but you can't be sure
>>>>>> how
>>>>>> long side two is going to be, so you can't be sure if the tape is
>>>>>> going
>>>>>> to run out. So you stand around biting your nails, waiting for the LP
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> finish. Of course, it overruns and a track is only part-recorded. So
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> have to wind the tape back to the last complete track, then record
>>>>>> over
>>>>>> the incomplete track with a silent recording to erase it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then you turn over the tape and finish recording the rest of the LP.
>>>>>> Then it starts again...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've also been asked to transfer CDs to cassette too! If the CD has
>>>>>> playing times listed, you can make an educated guess how much you can
>>>>>> get on one side of a tape.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Julian Vein
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