[78-L] WWI descriptive record with fadeout

Philip Carli Philip_Carli at pittsford.monroe.edu
Thu Apr 21 07:34:32 PDT 2011


There are a number of "patrol" type records with smooth apparent "fade-outs" going back to fairly early days.  Syracuse University has a copy of an Edison-Bell cylinder from about 1905-06 titled "The Suffering Suffragettes" where a small parade comes in from the distance (this is after the announcement), there is a short comic meeting, and then they go off again.  All very slickly done, complete with a Salvation Army-type bass drum keeping time and fading away.  Some acoustic studios were big enough to allow some movement away from the immediate recording area; another trick (evident in Edison's "That Mysterious Rag" cylinders, both the 2-minute and 4-minute Amberol versions, 1910) was to evidently have a combination of decrescendo from the singers and slowly turning away from the horn.  These techniques presumably could be combined, I suppose.  All this is a bit of guesswork and observation on my part anyway, but I thought I'd offer them.  Philip Carli
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I have this on US Victor.  It's an S/8 master (an acoustically made dub)
with both a slow fade in as well as that slow fade out.  And I can't detect
when the reproducer started and ended playback unlike many Edison BA
cylinders at the start, or find any explanation for it being a dubbing
anywhere.  (There's no real info on it even on EDVR.)

On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Julian Vein <julianvein at blueyonder.co.uk>wrote:

> Mike Daley wrote:
> > I just picked up this Canadian Victor of "British Troops Passing Through
> > Boulogne," a descriptive record from 1914.
> >
> > http://db.tt/LBzKlei
> >
> > At the end of the record, as the troops march off into the distance,
> their
> > singing and footfalls "fade" very smoothly, much like a board fade of
> today.
> > This strikes me as unusual in the acoustic era. Are there other examples
> of
> > fadeouts at the ends of acoustic records?
> >
> > Mike
> > _______________________________________________
> Perhaps they were marching into the English Channel?
>
>      Julian Vein
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