[78-L] 14" Pathes.

[DanKj]

For fun, here's a bit of an inside-start Pathe (Dutch, says the maker of the file) played with the steel ball from a PEN,
glued onto a regular lp stylus. He must have very steady hands..
Exactly 2 people on another list bothered to check this out...   I'd like to determine the orchestra, conductor, and music,
but the record was given away and its former owner didn't note any info. I should ask him if he has the rest of this piece.

 http://www.box.net/shared/2mvu0egrh2



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Philip Carli" <Philip_Carli at pittsford.monroe.edu>
To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [78-L] 14" Pathes.


> It really is at 68 rpm for the correct pitch; I have a whole stack of things to transfer next week and will try to include
> those two sides.
>
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> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 11:45 AM
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> So which speed did you finally settle on? 68rpm or something faster? I wouldn't
> mind hearing mp3's of the 2 sides one day.....
>
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> From: Philip Carli <Philip_Carli at pittsford.monroe.edu>
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> Sent: Thu, January 6, 2011 10:23:10 PM
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> Well, Coates can be fast -- and I much prefer him to many conductors who equate
> "profundity" with "lugubrious" (how slow can you go?) -- but not as fast as this
> was; or several tones above the printed score.  I actually couldn't keep the
> soundbox on the disc at 90!
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> On Behalf Of David Lennick [dlennick at sympatico.ca]
> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 4:54 PM
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> Subject: Re: [78-L] 14" Pathes.
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> On 1/6/2011 4:36 PM, Philip Carli wrote:
>> I have a 11 1/2" British Pathe from about 1914 of two highly abridged movements
>>from the Tchaikovsky 6th (the first recs. of any part of the work) by the Pathe
>>Symphony Orchestra, presumably under Lillian Bryant, and the speed at score
>>pitch is 68 rpm -- honest.  I wondered because when I first got the disc I put
>>it on at 90 and it was unrecognizeable gobbledygook,
>
> No, you thought it was early Albert Coates.
>
>> so I backed it down and down and down...I've never seen anything like it. I've
>>been looking for the other disc of this set for years to compare as part of my
>>work on Bryant.  Consistency wasn't a priority at Pathe, it appears...PC
>>
> Some Maurice Chevalier early electricals sound like Mickey Mouse till you bring
> them down to about 70, as I recall. And those are from French Columbia.
>
> dl