[78-L] Who says some phono collectors aren't creepy?

[Don Chichester]

Does it have something to do with number of frames/second?  Car wheels almost always spin backwards in the movies or on TV.
 
Don
 
> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 12:41:33 -0500
> From: mbiel at mbiel.com
> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Who says some phono collectors aren't creepy?
> 
> On 12/19/2010 9:31 AM, neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com wrote:
> > I haven';t seen this so I don't know if there was dialogue or not. It
> > was only a maybe.
> >
> > Some directors try to avoid looping dialogue, they want the real stuff
> > where they can manage it. I believe Mel Brooks said something about that
> > in an interview but I don't remember where I read that.
> >
> > joe salerno
> >
> 
> It still doesn't answer why cranking a phonograph backwards would make 
> it turn backwards which was the subject of the question.
> 
> Mike Biel mbiel at mbiel.com
> 
> On 12/18/2010 9:15 PM, Vincent Fitzpatrick wrote:
> 
> Why do so many gramophones in the movies turn backwards?
> 
> 
> 
> > On 12/19/2010 12:36 AM, Michael Biel wrote:
> >> On 12/18/2010 11:52 PM, neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com wrote:
> >>> perhaps they turn the crank backwards to avoid making noise while taking
> >>> dialogue during a scene. Of course if they crank in CU it wouldn't
> >>> matter, they might want the noise
> >>>
> >>> joe salerno
> >>>
> >>>
> >> HUH????? Except for the motorless hand-crank Berliners or tinfoil
> >> machines, turning a crank backwards only unscrews or detaches the crank,
> >> not cause the turntable to turn backwards. There was no dialog in this
> >> scene, and in making movies, if there is on-set noise they don't want
> >> they re-record the dialog in a technique called "looping".
> >>
> >>> On 12/18/2010 9:15 PM, Vincent Fitzpatrick wrote:
> >>>> Why do so many gramophones in the movies turn backwards?
> >> What examples do you have? I'm not sure about this one because the
> >> youtube stream was herky-jerky and there were not enough frames to
> >> determine which way the turntable was turning, at least on my computer.
> >>
> >>>> And how to people
> >>>> get 78s of recordings made in the 1960s, 70s, 80s, and 90s?
> >>>>
> >> Examples??? This one starts with the sound of the music from what could
> >> be any recording of it, and then dissolves into a modern sound of the
> >> recording because the hi-fi sound is more dramatic and is better
> >> understood by today's audience. I don't think they are claiming that
> >> the hi-fi recording is coming out of the horn, or that the 78 was a
> >> modern recording. This was not a modern piece of music. It had been
> >> recorded in the 78 era.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Steve Ramm<steveramm78l at hotmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> This was shared on another newsgroup and I thought others might want to see
> >>>>> it:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pcfz3zt2DDo
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Steve
> >>>> _____
> >> And Steve, I never said that some phono collectors aren't creepy. Some
> >> are VERY creepy. But after all, we here on the 78-L are RECORD
> >> collectors, not PHONOGRAPH collectors!!!!!
> >>
> >> Mike Biel mbiel at mbiel.com
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