[78-L] Who says some phono collectors aren't creepy?

Philip Carli Philip_Carli at pittsford.monroe.edu
Sun Dec 19 11:59:30 PST 2010


Well, both sides of course have their creepinesses, doing both and knowing both myself.  It's a little unsettling that the motion picture poster-child for record collecting is the excellent, but distinctly off-kilter, Steve Buscemi in _Ghost World_... P Carli

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From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com [78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of Michael Biel [mbiel at mbiel.com]
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On 12/18/2010 11:52 PM, neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com wrote:
> perhaps they turn the crank backwards to avoid making noise while taking
> dialogue during a scene. Of course if they crank in CU it wouldn't
> matter, they might want the noise
>
> joe salerno
>
>

HUH?????  Except for the motorless hand-crank Berliners or tinfoil
machines, turning a crank backwards only unscrews or detaches the crank,
not cause the turntable to turn backwards.  There was no dialog in this
scene, and in making movies, if there is on-set noise they don't want
they re-record the dialog in a technique called "looping".

> On 12/18/2010 9:15 PM, Vincent Fitzpatrick wrote:
>> Why do so many gramophones in the movies turn backwards?

What examples do you have?  I'm not sure about this one because the
youtube stream was herky-jerky and there were not enough frames to
determine which way the turntable was turning, at least on my computer.

>>   And how to people
>> get 78s of recordings made in the 1960s, 70s, 80s, and 90s?
>>

Examples???  This one starts with the sound of the music from what could
be any recording of it, and then dissolves into a modern sound of the
recording because the hi-fi sound is more dramatic and is better
understood by today's audience.  I don't think they are claiming that
the hi-fi recording is coming out of the horn, or that the 78 was a
modern recording.  This was not a modern piece of music.  It had been
recorded in the 78 era.






>> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Steve Ramm<steveramm78l at hotmail.com>
>>    wrote:
>>
>>> This was shared on another newsgroup and I thought others might want to see
>>> it:
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pcfz3zt2DDo
>>>
>>>
>>> Steve
>> _____

And Steve, I never said that some phono collectors aren't creepy.  Some
are VERY creepy.  But after all, we here on the 78-L are RECORD
collectors, not PHONOGRAPH collectors!!!!!

Mike Biel   mbiel at mbiel.com
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