[78-L] Who says some phono collectors aren't creepy?

[Michael Biel]

On 12/19/2010 9:31 AM, neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com wrote:
> I haven';t seen this so I don't know if there was dialogue or not. It
> was only a maybe.
>
> Some directors try to avoid looping dialogue, they want the real stuff
> where they can manage it. I believe Mel Brooks said something about that
> in an interview but I don't remember where I read that.
>
> joe salerno
>

It still doesn't answer why cranking a phonograph backwards would make 
it turn backwards which was the subject of the question.

Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com

On 12/18/2010 9:15 PM, Vincent Fitzpatrick wrote:

Why do so many gramophones in the movies turn backwards?



> On 12/19/2010 12:36 AM, Michael Biel wrote:
>> On 12/18/2010 11:52 PM, neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com wrote:
>>> perhaps they turn the crank backwards to avoid making noise while taking
>>> dialogue during a scene. Of course if they crank in CU it wouldn't
>>> matter, they might want the noise
>>>
>>> joe salerno
>>>
>>>
>> HUH?????  Except for the motorless hand-crank Berliners or tinfoil
>> machines, turning a crank backwards only unscrews or detaches the crank,
>> not cause the turntable to turn backwards.  There was no dialog in this
>> scene, and in making movies, if there is on-set noise they don't want
>> they re-record the dialog in a technique called "looping".
>>
>>> On 12/18/2010 9:15 PM, Vincent Fitzpatrick wrote:
>>>> Why do so many gramophones in the movies turn backwards?
>> What examples do you have?  I'm not sure about this one because the
>> youtube stream was herky-jerky and there were not enough frames to
>> determine which way the turntable was turning, at least on my computer.
>>
>>>>     And how to people
>>>> get 78s of recordings made in the 1960s, 70s, 80s, and 90s?
>>>>
>> Examples???  This one starts with the sound of the music from what could
>> be any recording of it, and then dissolves into a modern sound of the
>> recording because the hi-fi sound is more dramatic and is better
>> understood by today's audience.  I don't think they are claiming that
>> the hi-fi recording is coming out of the horn, or that the 78 was a
>> modern recording.  This was not a modern piece of music.  It had been
>> recorded in the 78 era.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Steve Ramm<steveramm78l at hotmail.com>
>>>>      wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This was shared on another newsgroup and I thought others might want to see
>>>>> it:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pcfz3zt2DDo
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>> _____
>> And Steve, I never said that some phono collectors aren't creepy.  Some
>> are VERY creepy.  But after all, we here on the 78-L are RECORD
>> collectors, not PHONOGRAPH collectors!!!!!
>>
>> Mike Biel   mbiel at mbiel.com
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