[78-L] Joe Guy, was Beiderbecke TV series on BBC

[David Lennick]

Now if we could mix the Newman and Benedetti recordings....!

dl

On 11/12/2010 3:18 PM, Dan Van Landingham wrote:
> That was the story as I remember it;any corrections are greatly appreciated.I
> want to say I read of it via
> Ira Gitler's 1966 book "Jazz Masters of the Forties" but I could be wrong.I
> haven't read it in many years.
>
>
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> From: Royal Pemberton<ampex354 at gmail.com>
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> Sent: Thu, November 11, 2010 7:31:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Joe Guy, was Beiderbecke TV series on BBC
>
> I hadn't heard of this Jerry Newman and his anti-Parker recordings; I'd only
> heard of Dean Benedetti who did the opposite, he only recorded when Parker
> soloed....
>
> On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:20 AM, Dan Van Landingham<
> danvanlandingham at yahoo.com>  wrote:
>
>> I'm not familiar with those other selections.Where can I get those
>> tracks?As I
>> stated previously,what I
>> had was on Springboard and the album had about 8 tracks.I bought it here in
>> North Bend in the early
>> '80s when they had PayLess Drugs which is now defunct.I gave around a
>> dollar for
>> it as I recall.On the
>> cover were the names "Charlie Christian" amd "Dizzy Gillespie".On "Guy's
>> Got to
>> Go",you can hear N-
>> ick Fenton playing harmony with Byas on baritone.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> From: simmonssomer<simmonssomer at comcast.net>
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>> Sent: Thu, November 11, 2010 12:55:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Joe Guy, was Beiderbecke TV series on BBC
>>
>> It was Monk  with Joe Guy , Kenny Clarke, Don Byas on "I Can't Give You
>> Anything But Love"; "Rhythm Riff" "Nice Work If You Can Get It".that I know
>> of.
>> It was Ken Kersey with Guy and Byas on "Kerouac, Exactly Like You and
>> "Indiana."
>> On"Topsy" it was Monk, Charlie Christian and Joe Guy.
>> Fortunately, many of these broadcasts from Minton's were recorded by
>> Columbia University's pioneer FM station from whose facilities these
>> b'casts
>> originated.. Call letters now WKCR, but I believe that in Fall of 1941 this
>> station, the first FM station in the country (if I'm nnot mistaken ), had
>> call letters with an X in there somewhere as it was "experimental."
>> Anyway in the fall of 1941 these extensive b'casts featured the "Joe
>> Guy-Kenny Clarke Band " featuring Thelonious Monk. The bassistt was Nick
>> Fenton.
>> All still in the WKCR archives and are played once in a while by Phil
>> Schaap. I have the titles on some of these b'casts for anyone researching
>> the birth of the Bop period.
>>
>> Al Simmons
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Lewis"<uncledavelewis at hotmail.com>
>> To: "78-l"<78-l at 78online.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 9:34 AM
>> Subject: [78-L] Joe Guy, was Beiderbecke TV series on BBC
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Dan Van Landingham wrote:
>>>
>>> [Joe} Guy and [Billie] Holiday were together when she went to prison in
>>> 1947.Guy appearantly led her 1945 big  band.He vanished after 1947;I
>> don't
>>> know what ever became of him.The only recorded work I ever heard by him
>>> was Cootie Williams' 1942 Columbia recording of "Fly Right" a/k/a
>>> "Epistrophy" which was unissued until 1966(on the Columbia LP "The Sound
>>> of Harlem" according to Ira Gitler)
>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> Joe Guy is one of the trumpets in the jam band led by Charlie Christian
>> in
>>> the Minton's Playhouse recordings made by Jerry Newman in 1941. Lips Page
>>> is one of the other trumpets, but from what I understand it is Guy that
>>> plays the majority of the solos in those sessions. If so, he was a very
>>> good player in the swing style. I have never encountered information
>>> indicating what happened to him either.
>>>
>>> It is also said that Thelonious Monk is the pianist on some sides, though
>>> this is disputed. To my ears, the pianist said to be Monk doesn't sound
>>> anything like him, even bearing in mind that in 1941 he is also said to
>>> have sounded more like Teddy Wilson than his mature self.
>>>
>>> Uncle Dave Lewis
>>> uncledavelewis at hotmail.com
>>>
>>>
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