[78-L] Joe Guy, was Beiderbecke TV series on BBC

[Dan Van Landingham]

That was the story as I remember it;any corrections are greatly appreciated.I 
want to say I read of it via
Ira Gitler's 1966 book "Jazz Masters of the Forties" but I could be wrong.I 
haven't read it in many years.




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I hadn't heard of this Jerry Newman and his anti-Parker recordings; I'd only
heard of Dean Benedetti who did the opposite, he only recorded when Parker
soloed....

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:20 AM, Dan Van Landingham <
danvanlandingham at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I'm not familiar with those other selections.Where can I get those
> tracks?As I
> stated previously,what I
> had was on Springboard and the album had about 8 tracks.I bought it here in
> North Bend in the early
> '80s when they had PayLess Drugs which is now defunct.I gave around a
> dollar for
> it as I recall.On the
> cover were the names "Charlie Christian" amd "Dizzy Gillespie".On "Guy's
> Got to
> Go",you can hear N-
> ick Fenton playing harmony with Byas on baritone.
>
>
>
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> It was Monk  with Joe Guy , Kenny Clarke, Don Byas on "I Can't Give You
> Anything But Love"; "Rhythm Riff" "Nice Work If You Can Get It".that I know
> of.
> It was Ken Kersey with Guy and Byas on "Kerouac, Exactly Like You and
> "Indiana."
> On"Topsy" it was Monk, Charlie Christian and Joe Guy.
> Fortunately, many of these broadcasts from Minton's were recorded by
> Columbia University's pioneer FM station from whose facilities these
> b'casts
> originated.. Call letters now WKCR, but I believe that in Fall of 1941 this
> station, the first FM station in the country (if I'm nnot mistaken ), had
> call letters with an X in there somewhere as it was "experimental."
> Anyway in the fall of 1941 these extensive b'casts featured the "Joe
> Guy-Kenny Clarke Band " featuring Thelonious Monk. The bassistt was Nick
> Fenton.
> All still in the WKCR archives and are played once in a while by Phil
> Schaap. I have the titles on some of these b'casts for anyone researching
> the birth of the Bop period.
>
> Al Simmons
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>
> >
> > Dan Van Landingham wrote:
> >
> > [Joe} Guy and [Billie] Holiday were together when she went to prison in
> > 1947.Guy appearantly led her 1945 big  band.He vanished after 1947;I
> don't
> > know what ever became of him.The only recorded work I ever heard by him
> > was Cootie Williams' 1942 Columbia recording of "Fly Right" a/k/a
> > "Epistrophy" which was unissued until 1966(on the Columbia LP "The Sound
> > of Harlem" according to Ira Gitler)
> >
> >>>>>
> > Joe Guy is one of the trumpets in the jam band led by Charlie Christian
> in
> > the Minton's Playhouse recordings made by Jerry Newman in 1941. Lips Page
> > is one of the other trumpets, but from what I understand it is Guy that
> > plays the majority of the solos in those sessions. If so, he was a very
> > good player in the swing style. I have never encountered information
> > indicating what happened to him either.
> >
> > It is also said that Thelonious Monk is the pianist on some sides, though
> > this is disputed. To my ears, the pianist said to be Monk doesn't sound
> > anything like him, even bearing in mind that in 1941 he is also said to
> > have sounded more like Teddy Wilson than his mature self.
> >
> > Uncle Dave Lewis
> > uncledavelewis at hotmail.com
> >
> >
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