[78-L] Decca calypso series

Wed Jun 9 11:46:38 PDT 2010

The label copy books that I used were kept in the office of Steve Hoffman (now with DCC). Steve told me that if he didn't use his own space for the books, Universal would have chucked them. After Steve left the company, I have no idea what happened to everything, but I think someone told me that they were thrown out. When I viewed them, I was in the main "black tower" on the Universal lot, not the building that burned down. But this was in the early 1980s, so who knows where everything went after that.

I never saw any masters; it was my understanding that these were kept somewhere back East (Indiana?)

Cary

> 
> Are the files you used at MCA to do your book still exist or were they
> vaporized in the Universal City warehouse fire? And the masters?? I
> happened to spend Monday afternoon at Universal Music in NYC and the
> answers I got was the status of the destruction was still unknown, and
> that NY deals mainly with the East Coast tapes at Iron Mt. 

> Mike Biel mbiel at mbiel.com 
> 
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Decca calypso series
> From: Cary Ginell <soundthink at live.com>
> Date: Wed, June 09, 2010 12:56 pm
> To: <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> 
> 
> I documented the 17000 Cajun series in my book, "The Decca Hillbilly
> Discography," which was published by Greenwood. The series actually goes
> to 17059. Some of the songs had English lyrics and were co-issued in the
> 5000 series. Items in the 17000 series are rare. You can find the
> complete list here:
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.78discography.com/Dec17000.htm
> 
> 
> 
> although there are quite a few errors and typos. In my book, I
> identified exactly what was printed on each label, having examined
> company label copy and actual issues whenever possible. This includes
> "Cajun" or "Cajin" designations, subtitles, songwriters, and
> translations.
> 
> 
> 
> Cary Ginell
> 
> > From: jcenderman at solcon.nl
> > To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> > Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 17:53:27 +0200
> > Subject: [78-L] Decca calypso series
> > 
> > The Decca 17000 series starts with Cajun.
> > I have images in the range 17000-17050, with Decca sunburst & block labels, and even with
> > Decca script labels (17016 & 32). Apparently some were kept in print for a longer time.
> > The word 'Cajun' appears at 3h for the first time on my scan of 17017 (mx 60795).
> > Surprisingly all known following issues write 'Cajin' (17025-50 range).
> > 
> > I have calypso images in range 17250-17471.
> > Maybe the Decca or ethnic dgs give a more accurate range, but apparently over 200 records 
> > were released.
> > De 17250-51 omit the mx.nrs on the sunburst labels, and thus are early Decca issues.
> > Early mxs are in the 39000 series, and followed by mxs in range 60986-62019.
> > Then mxs in range 91370-91976 (Decca 17349-449); all with 'Recorded in Trinidad' on the labels. 
> > Since Barr lists these 90000-series mxs as a Chicago series, were they reprocessed in Chicago?
> > 
> > Han Enderman
> > ===
> > >>> From: "Steven C. Barr" <stevenc at interlinks.net>
> > > For the most part, discographers don't include West Indian (mostly calypso 
> > > at that time) recordings; they were usually issued on limited-circulation
> > > "ethnic" series. Both Decca and ARC recorded such discs; I have run across
> > > a VERY limited number of these, and always find them pleasant listening...!
> > 
> > It is astonishing how many Calypso records were issued on American Decca
> > in the 1930s that nobody knows about. They were not listed in Decca's
> > "Popular" catalog, When photographing album 78 titled "Decca presents A
> > Special Collection of the World-Famous Music of Trinidad - CALYPSOS By
> > Wilmouth Houdini and His Royal Calypso Orchestra" I was astonished to
> > see a listing of SIXTY FOUR Decca releases on the back page of the
> > booklet (dated 11-39). They were all in the 17000 series, but the three
> > discs in this album were in the 18000 series. This album is like a
> > promotional sampler because although only one performer is featured, the
> > are many photographs inside of other groups, as well as that catalog
> > listing. An English collector had given us a presentation at the 2001
> > ARSC/IASA about these records but I had no idea until I saw this list
> > how truly extensive the series was beyond the few that were in the
> > catalog and show up, such as "Joe Louis". The subtitle on in the
> > booklet is "The World-Famous Topical Song of Trinidad" and two of the
> > songs in the album is "Roosevelt Opens World's Fair" and "The Welcome of
> > Their Magisties". 
> > 
> > The description includes "Having been unable to resist the purchase of
> > Calypso records in Trinidad, tourists bring them home in great
> > enthusiasm as something new and fascinating to introduce to their
> > friends. . . . At the same time many people wished to buy the records
> > that had heard locally, but they were very difficult to obtain. Decca
> > has been for years the principal recorded of this type of song and has
> > exported many thousands of records annually to the West Indies and it is
> > the Decca Records that have been brought back home and about which you
> > have read interesting articles in The New Yorker, Esquire, Cosmopolitan,
> > Newsweek, and other leading publications. . . . The complete catalog of
> > Decca Calypso Records by all of the leading Calypsodians is now
> > available domestically in response to wide demand and in consideration
> > of the mounting interest Decca is pleased to present this first album
> > collection of Calypsos containing six new numbers by the famous Wilmoth
> > Houdini, one of the first ever to record the Calypso song and the only
> > Calypsonian residing in the United States."
> > 
> > I can provide my photos of the cover, inside cover, booklet cover,
> > booklet intro, and the booklet record listing but the size of each of
> > the photos is huge -- about two megs each -- in order for you to get the
> > resolution to enlarge and read it.
> > 
> > Mike Biel mbiel at mbiel.com 
> > <<<
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