[78-L] Golden & Golden and who knows what else

[bruce78rpm at comcast.net]

wow, sounds like someone must have made it all up !! 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Biel" <mbiel at mbiel.com> 
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Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2010 8:50:09 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [78-L] Golden & Golden and who knows what else 

Michael Biel wrote: 
> bruce78rpm at comcast.net wrote: 
> 
> 
>>> Golden & Hughes was the first of a long line of two-man 
>>> comedy teams that delivered jokes in a black dialect. 
>>> 
> 
> Source????? This doesn't seem possible. This goes way back in 
> minstrel tradition. 
> 
> 
>>> Billy Golden (born William Shires, 1858-1926; started his 
>>> career in 1874 doing a black-face talking act in vaudeville. 
>>> 
> 
> At age 16? 
> 
> From Uncle Dave Lewis: 
> > Ryan Barna has posted the Billy Golden/William B. Shires death cert 
> on the web. 
> > It states that he was 63 years old, which would indicate a birthdate 
> of 1862 rather 
> > than 1858; 
> 
> This would have him start at age 12!! 
> 
> >> he was one of the earliest "named" artists to make Berliner discs 
> (prior to this, 
> >> Berliner discs did not name any artists who performed on the disc). 
> 
> WHAT???!! Golden started around 1897. Berliner discs were SIGNED by 
> the performers as early as 1894 and maybe even earlier. 
> 
> 
Correction-- I do see now that Golden made a Berliner in Aug 1895 and a 
few more in late 95 and 96, but there were other identified Berliners by 
at least 7 other performers going back to Aug 1894. 
>>> Joe Hughes (born Joseph Sovey, 1863-1922?; had performed in 
>>> vaudeville for many years before teaming up with Billy Golden in 1907. 
>>> 
> 
> How could they be first if they started as late as 1907? 
> 
> Where did this come from????? 
> 
> Mike Biel mbiel at mbiel.com 
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