[78-L] Golden & Golden and who knows what else

[Michael Biel]

Michael Biel wrote:
> bruce78rpm at comcast.net wrote:
>
>   
>>> Golden & Hughes was the first of a long line of two-man
>>> comedy teams that delivered jokes in a black dialect. 
>>>       
>
> Source?????   This doesn't seem possible.  This goes way back in 
> minstrel tradition.
>
>   
>>> Billy Golden (born William Shires, 1858-1926; started his
>>> career in 1874 doing a black-face talking act in vaudeville. 
>>>       
>
> At age 16?
>
>  From Uncle Dave Lewis:
>  > Ryan Barna has posted the Billy Golden/William B. Shires death cert 
> on the web.
>  > It states that he was 63 years old, which would indicate a birthdate 
> of 1862 rather
>  > than 1858;
>
> This would have him start at age 12!!
>
>  >> he was one of the earliest "named" artists to make Berliner discs 
> (prior to this,
>  >> Berliner discs did not name any artists who performed on the disc).
>
> WHAT???!!  Golden started around 1897.  Berliner discs were SIGNED by 
> the performers as early as 1894 and maybe even earlier.
>
>   
Correction-- I do see now that Golden made a Berliner in Aug 1895 and a 
few more in late 95 and 96, but there were other identified Berliners by 
at least 7 other performers going back to Aug 1894. 
>>> Joe Hughes (born Joseph Sovey, 1863-1922?; had performed in
>>> vaudeville for many years before teaming up with Billy Golden in 1907.
>>>       
>
> How could they be first if they started as late as 1907?
>
> Where did this come from?????
>
> Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com 
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