[78-L] Copyright Criminals on PBS

[Royal Pemberton]

I've heard an LP from the 1970s that collected many of their creations from
the then-new 'Mr Jaws' on back, and some of the break-in bits were replaced
on some of them.

On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Cary Ginell <soundthink at live.com> wrote:

>
> Dickie Goodman did get taken to court for copyright infringement, but the
> court ruled that "The Flying Saucer" and other records were parodies or
> burlesques and constituted original works. Eventually, the case was settled
> out of court. Whether it was out of guilt over what he did or for whatever
> reason, Goodman shot himself to death in 1989.
>
> Cary Ginell
>
> > From: dnjchi78 at live.com
> > To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> > Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:47:29 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [78-L] Copyright Criminals on PBS
> >
> >
> > Did Buchanan and Goodman have to pay royalties for all the 'samples' in
> their 'space ship' novelty discs?
> >
> > Don
> >
> > > Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:40:25 -0500
> > > From: dlennick at sympatico.ca
> > > To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> > > Subject: Re: [78-L] Copyright Criminals on PBS
> > >
> > > I have a "dub blues" record which not only samples a 78, it's pressed
> as a
> > > ten-incher with a small repro OKeh label in a repro OKeh sleeve!
> Contains
> > > elements from Howlin' Wolf/The Chess Box and "Ride On" by Leadbelly,
> courtesy
> > > of Rounder Records (!). The disc is Little Axe's "Ride On".
> > >
> > > Great to see all the original OKeh sleeve elements ("the record of
> quality",
> > > "plays on any standard disc machine", plugs for Sophie Tucker, Vincent
> Lopez
> > > etc) except that they changed the playing speed to 33 1/3rpm.
> > >
> > > dl
> > >
> > > Tim Huskisson wrote:
> > > > These Hip Hop artists are sampling older music simply because they
> can. The
> > > > technology allows this. It's the modern equivalent of copying the
> style of
> > > > an earlier musician. Whether making music from 'loops' and samples is
> as
> > > > creative as actually playing a musical instrument... I doubt.
> > > >
> > > > This thread has had nothing to do with 78s, but out of curiosity...
> > > > Some years ago I was working in Italy where I heard an Italian Rap
> track 'La
> > > > Findanzata' by a group known as Articolo31. What was interesting
> about it
> > > > was that they'd sampled a 78rpm era recording (Maybe an early 1930s
> dance
> > > > band?) and used it for 'loops' throughout the record. It's on YouTube
> at
> > > > www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR-vk3IosWg
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Tim Huskisson
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
> > > > [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of Cary
> Ginell
> > > > Sent: 22 January 2010 16:42
> > > > To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [78-L] Copyright Criminals on PBS
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > .......by sampling previously recorded tracks, these producers are
> robbing
> > > > youngsters the opportunity to create their own music. Back in "the
> day,"
> > > > you'd scour the musician's union directories when you were short a
> musician.
> > > > Now, all these thieves have to do is go to a swap meet, buy an LP,
> and steal
> > > > what's in the grooves. It's insidious, it's disgusting, and it is
> > > > technically illegal. I think that these hip-hop producers are doing a
> lot
> > > > more harm than good with their unethical practices that they
> rationalize as
> > > > "doing our thang."
> > > >
> > > > Cary Ginell
> > > >
> > > >
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