[78-L] Copyright Criminals on PBS

[David Lennick]

If anyone cares, here are the contents (in sequence) of the discs used in 
"Flying Saucer The Second"..I assembled them for an online library a couple of 
years ago.

YOUNG BLOOD (Jerry Leiber-Mike Stoller-Doc Pomus)
     THE COASTERS
     ATCO 6087, mx 57C-187; February 15, 1957 (2:19)

LITTLE DARLIN' (Maurice Williams)
     THE DIAMONDS with David Carroll's Orchestra
     MERCURY 71060, mx YB 15048; January 3, 1957 (2:07)

MAMA LOOK AT BUBU (Lord Melody aka Fitzroy Alexander)
     HARRY BELAFONTE
     RCA VICTOR 47-6830, mx H2-PW-1273; January 27, 1957 (2:50)

SO RARE (Jerry Herst-Jack Sharpe)
     JIMMY DORSEY with Orchestra and the Artie Malvin Singers
     FRATERNITY F-755, mx G9-OW-1174; November 11, 1956 (2:33)

A WHITE SPORT COAT (AND A PINK CARNATION) (Marty Robbins)
     MARTY ROBBINS with Ray Conniff's Orchestra and Chorus
     COLUMBIA 40864, mx CO 57240; January 25, 1957 (2:29)

ALL SHOOK UP (Otis Blackwell-Elvis Presley)
     ELVIS PRESLEY
     RCA VICTOR 47-6870, mx H2-WB-0256; January 12, 1957  (1:55)

BYE BYE LOVE (Felice Bryant-Boudleaux Bryant)
     THE EVERLY BROTHERS
     CADENCE 1315, mx H9-OB-4440; March 1, 1957 (2:18)

COME GO WITH ME (Clarence E. Quick)
     THE DEL-VIKINGS
     FEE BEE 205, DOT 15538; November, 1956 (2:37)

GONE (Smokey Rogers)
     FERLIN HUSKY & HIS HUSH PUPPIES
     CAPITOL 3628, mx 16014; November 7, 1956  (2:21)

FLYING SAUCER THE 2ND (including excerpts from above)
     BILL BUCHANAN AND DICKIE GOODMAN
     LUNIVERSE 105, mx BG 1550; c. June 1957 (2:12)

dl

Royal Pemberton wrote:
> I've heard an LP from the 1970s that collected many of their creations from
> the then-new 'Mr Jaws' on back, and some of the break-in bits were replaced
> on some of them.
> 
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Cary Ginell <soundthink at live.com> wrote:
> 
>> Dickie Goodman did get taken to court for copyright infringement, but the
>> court ruled that "The Flying Saucer" and other records were parodies or
>> burlesques and constituted original works. Eventually, the case was settled
>> out of court. Whether it was out of guilt over what he did or for whatever
>> reason, Goodman shot himself to death in 1989.
>>
>> Cary Ginell
>>
>>> From: dnjchi78 at live.com
>>> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
>>> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:47:29 -0500
>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Copyright Criminals on PBS
>>>
>>>
>>> Did Buchanan and Goodman have to pay royalties for all the 'samples' in
>> their 'space ship' novelty discs?
>>> Don
>>>
>>>> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:40:25 -0500
>>>> From: dlennick at sympatico.ca
>>>> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Copyright Criminals on PBS
>>>>
>>>> I have a "dub blues" record which not only samples a 78, it's pressed
>> as a
>>>> ten-incher with a small repro OKeh label in a repro OKeh sleeve!
>> Contains
>>>> elements from Howlin' Wolf/The Chess Box and "Ride On" by Leadbelly,
>> courtesy
>>>> of Rounder Records (!). The disc is Little Axe's "Ride On".
>>>>
>>>> Great to see all the original OKeh sleeve elements ("the record of
>> quality",
>>>> "plays on any standard disc machine", plugs for Sophie Tucker, Vincent
>> Lopez
>>>> etc) except that they changed the playing speed to 33 1/3rpm.
>>>>
>>>> dl
>>>>
>>>> Tim Huskisson wrote:
>>>>> These Hip Hop artists are sampling older music simply because they
>> can. The
>>>>> technology allows this. It's the modern equivalent of copying the
>> style of
>>>>> an earlier musician. Whether making music from 'loops' and samples is
>> as
>>>>> creative as actually playing a musical instrument... I doubt.
>>>>>
>>>>> This thread has had nothing to do with 78s, but out of curiosity...
>>>>> Some years ago I was working in Italy where I heard an Italian Rap
>> track 'La
>>>>> Findanzata' by a group known as Articolo31. What was interesting
>> about it
>>>>> was that they'd sampled a 78rpm era recording (Maybe an early 1930s
>> dance
>>>>> band?) and used it for 'loops' throughout the record. It's on YouTube
>> at
>>>>> www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR-vk3IosWg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim Huskisson
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
>>>>> [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of Cary
>> Ginell
>>>>> Sent: 22 January 2010 16:42
>>>>> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Copyright Criminals on PBS
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> .......by sampling previously recorded tracks, these producers are
>> robbing
>>>>> youngsters the opportunity to create their own music. Back in "the
>> day,"
>>>>> you'd scour the musician's union directories when you were short a
>> musician.
>>>>> Now, all these thieves have to do is go to a swap meet, buy an LP,
>> and steal
>>>>> what's in the grooves. It's insidious, it's disgusting, and it is
>>>>> technically illegal. I think that these hip-hop producers are doing a
>> lot
>>>>> more harm than good with their unethical practices that they
>> rationalize as
>>>>> "doing our thang."
>>>>>
>>>>> Cary Ginell
>>>>>
>>>>>