[78-L] Copyright Criminals on PBS

[David Lennick]

Not according to the notes to "Dickie Goodman & Friends: Greatest Fables", Hot 
HTCD 33205-2, copyright 1997 the Estate of Dickie Goodman. And I quote:
"17 labels tried to sue Goodman for the use of their tracks. After a barrage of 
legal wrangling, the courts ruled that a new work had been created that was a 
modern version of burlesque and therefore was original. It was a landmark 
decision that set the precedent for generations to come."

dl

Don Chichester wrote:
> Did Buchanan and Goodman have to pay royalties for all the 'samples' in their 'space ship' novelty discs?
> 
> Don
>  
>> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:40:25 -0500
>> From: dlennick at sympatico.ca
>> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Copyright Criminals on PBS
>>
>> I have a "dub blues" record which not only samples a 78, it's pressed as a 
>> ten-incher with a small repro OKeh label in a repro OKeh sleeve! Contains 
>> elements from Howlin' Wolf/The Chess Box and "Ride On" by Leadbelly, courtesy 
>> of Rounder Records (!). The disc is Little Axe's "Ride On".
>>
>> Great to see all the original OKeh sleeve elements ("the record of quality", 
>> "plays on any standard disc machine", plugs for Sophie Tucker, Vincent Lopez 
>> etc) except that they changed the playing speed to 33 1/3rpm.
>>
>> dl
>>
>> Tim Huskisson wrote:
>>> These Hip Hop artists are sampling older music simply because they can. The
>>> technology allows this. It's the modern equivalent of copying the style of
>>> an earlier musician. Whether making music from 'loops' and samples is as
>>> creative as actually playing a musical instrument... I doubt. 
>>>
>>> This thread has had nothing to do with 78s, but out of curiosity...
>>> Some years ago I was working in Italy where I heard an Italian Rap track 'La
>>> Findanzata' by a group known as Articolo31. What was interesting about it
>>> was that they'd sampled a 78rpm era recording (Maybe an early 1930s dance
>>> band?) and used it for 'loops' throughout the record. It's on YouTube at 
>>> www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR-vk3IosWg
>>>
>>>
>>> Tim Huskisson
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
>>> [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of Cary Ginell
>>> Sent: 22 January 2010 16:42
>>> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Copyright Criminals on PBS
>>>
>>>
>>> .......by sampling previously recorded tracks, these producers are robbing
>>> youngsters the opportunity to create their own music. Back in "the day,"
>>> you'd scour the musician's union directories when you were short a musician.
>>> Now, all these thieves have to do is go to a swap meet, buy an LP, and steal
>>> what's in the grooves. It's insidious, it's disgusting, and it is
>>> technically illegal. I think that these hip-hop producers are doing a lot
>>> more harm than good with their unethical practices that they rationalize as
>>> "doing our thang."
>>>
>>> Cary Ginell
>>>
>>>