[78-L] Acoustic/electrical recordings on same disc

David Lennick dlennick at sympatico.ca
Thu Jan 7 09:07:33 PST 2010


Stars and Stripes also shows up in a dubbed version, as take 1-R!

dl

Michael Biel wrote:
> <l78rpm at aol.com> wrote:
>>> I believe Rust listed remakes if they had been assigned
>>> new matrix numbers. pc
> 
> True, but Victor usually kept the original matrix numbers if the
> personnel remained the same, just upping the take number.  The
> electrical Sousa Band Stars and Stripes is something like take 26 on the
> original acoustical number, and isn't in the VMB2.  And in this case
> there had even been conductor changes.   
> 
> From: Royal Pemberton <ampex354 at gmail.com>
>> I just had a look on Tyrone's site, and found the source of the earlier
>> question: 19823 has the same selections as 17164, with 'Hark the
>> herald....' shown as matrix BVE.11120-4 and a recording date of 16 October
>> 1925 (recorded 14 years to the day after the acoustic recording) whilst
>> 'Silent night' is shown with the same matrix number and recording date
>> (11791-1, 26 March 1912) as for 17164.
> 
> So I assume you are saying that there needs to be a search for an
> electrical recording date with an upped take number for B/BVE 11791?  
> 
>> I wish I had a copy of 19823....the words Elsie Baker sings for
>> 'Silent night' (at least on 17164) are a totally different
>> translation I've not heard anyplace else, and I can't make
>> many of the words out on the acoustic recording.
> 
> Too late.  It's after Christmas, and according to some, you are not
> supposed to be listening to Christmas songs after Christmas.
> 
> Mike (just kidding) Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com
> 
> 
> dlennick at sympatico.ca writes:
>>>> Neither is in the Victor Master Book V2, but that doesn't mean
>>>> anything since both sides could be electrical remakes of
>>>> acoustical sides, which Rust didn't list. For that matter,
>>>> neither side is in my 1926 Victor catalogue either.
>>>> Got a number for it?
> 
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