[78-L] Acoustic/electrical recordings on same disc

[Royal Pemberton]

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Michael Biel <mbiel at mbiel.com> wrote:

>
> <l78rpm at aol.com> wrote:
> >> I believe Rust listed remakes if they had been assigned
> >> new matrix numbers. pc
>
> True, but Victor usually kept the original matrix numbers if the
> personnel remained the same, just upping the take number.  The
> electrical Sousa Band Stars and Stripes is something like take 26 on the
> original acoustical number, and isn't in the VMB2.  And in this case
> there had even been conductor changes.
>
> From: Royal Pemberton <ampex354 at gmail.com>
> > I just had a look on Tyrone's site, and found the source of the earlier
> > question: 19823 has the same selections as 17164, with 'Hark the
> > herald....' shown as matrix BVE.11120-4 and a recording date of 16
> October
> > 1925 (recorded 14 years to the day after the acoustic recording) whilst
> > 'Silent night' is shown with the same matrix number and recording date
> > (11791-1, 26 March 1912) as for 17164.
>
> So I assume you are saying that there needs to be a search for an
> electrical recording date with an upped take number for B/BVE 11791?
>

I'd guess so....that could also rule out if there was a break with tradition
and a new recording being given a new matrix number.

>
> > I wish I had a copy of 19823....the words Elsie Baker sings for
> > 'Silent night' (at least on 17164) are a totally different
> > translation I've not heard anyplace else, and I can't make
> > many of the words out on the acoustic recording.
>
> Too late.  It's after Christmas, and according to some, you are not
> supposed to be listening to Christmas songs after Christmas.
>
> Mike (just kidding) Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com
>
> LOL!