[78-L] Lili Marleen

simmonssomer simmonssomer at comcast.net
Thu Nov 26 07:47:14 PST 2009


O.K. But where did Dietrich get Marlene from? She was German and it was 
Marlene from the start..nicht wahr?

Al S.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kristjan Saag" <saag at telia.com>
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Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 6:35 AM
Subject: Re: [78-L] Lili Marleen


> Al Simmons wrote:
>
>
>> As far as I know, it was  "Lili Marlene"
>> Where did this "Marleen" come from?
>> Probably the same place as "nucular"
> --
> Marlene is the English spelling (used on English versions).
> Somewhere along the way the German spelling changed from Marlen to 
> Marleen.
> You can see it on
> http://www.lale-andersen.de/index1.htm
> (press "TONTRAGER" and then "Deutsche Singles"- you'll see pictures of
> original issues).
> From late 1940's on most of Lale Andersen's own rerecordings use the
> spelling Marleen.
> This is also the spelling Bear Family (a German label) has chosen for 
> their
> 7 CD-set with nearly 200 recordings of Lili Marleen and related songs.
>
> --
> David Lennick wrote:
>>Dudes, you're all wrong..it was a hit in 1936. Sez so right here.
>> http://halfhearteddude.blogspot.com/2007/08/german-hits-1930-42.html
>
> --
> At that time Lale Andersen actually sang the song, but not to Norbert
> Schulze's melody. Composer Rudolf Zink had set music to Hans Leib's poem -
> but Lale Andersen never recorded that version, although she is said to 
> have
> liked the ballad style song better than Schultze's march-tempo version.
> It's fascinating, BTW, to hear the way she tries to "civilize" the song at
> the end of the choruses, but is stretched up by the drum beat again and
> again...
>
> Some sources say that Schultze wasn't very fond of the recording either - 
> it
> might well have been the arranger or producer who put the decisive 
> military
> touch to it. Goebells had his thoughts about how useful the song was for
> fighting moral, but that was later.
> There were, however, soft ballad versions of "Lili Marleen" recorded in
> Germany even in the war years. Some of these are found in the Bear Family
> compilation.
> http://www.bear-family.de/index.php?sid=3072e2923f3e7cd728ecf261862161ec&cl=details&anid=059cd098ccc98158e3a32562df61b8b8&listtype=search&tcsong=Lili%20Marleen%20&tcinterpret=ANDERSEN%2C%20Lale&tcexact=
> Kristjan
>
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