[78-L] Phil Harris/Andy Razaf

[Taylor Bowie]

Another question would be if the Razaf and Harris versions are the same,  or 
does Phil's "take" on the tune have clear differences?

As someone else pointed out,  few people would ever have heard the thing 
(not to be confused with The Thing) if it weren't for Phil.

Taylor


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cary Ginell" <soundthink at live.com>
To: <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: [78-L] Phil Harris/Andy Razaf


>
> Checked my copies of "That's What I Like 'Bout the South" - I have two 
> non-Harris versions, by Bob Wills (Vocalion, 1938) and Cliff Bruner 
> (Decca, 1944). Both show Razaf as the sole writer. All versions that I 
> have by Harris show Harris as the writer. I wonder if Harris and Razaf 
> didn't strike a deal on this, whereby Harris would receive credit on all 
> of his recordings of the song while Razaf got credit on all others plus 
> royalties.
>
>
>
> Cary Ginell
>
>> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:29:50 -0500
>> From: dlennick at sympatico.ca
>> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Phil Harris/Andy Razaf
>>
>> It's still "Harris" on the 1958 Camden LP.
>>
>> dl
>>
>> Cary Ginell wrote:
>> > I believe I have several. Will check them when I get home.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Cary Ginell
>> >
>> >> From: bowiebks at isomedia.com
>> >> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
>> >> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:16:13 -0800
>> >> Subject: Re: [78-L] Phil Harris/Andy Razaf
>> >>
>> >> Or maybe "leased" it, and the rights eventually reverted back to the 
>> >> Razaf
>> >> estate?
>> >>
>> >> Some interesting guesses here...does anyone have a record which 
>> >> contains a
>> >> later version (Asleep At The Wheel, etc.) so they could check the 
>> >> composer
>> >> credit there?
>> >>
>> >> Taylor
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: "David Lennick" <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
>> >> To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>> >> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 2:08 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [78-L] Phil Harris/Andy Razaf
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Is it possible that he bought the song from Razaf?
>> >>>
>> >>> dl
>> >>>
>> >>> Royal Pemberton wrote:
>> >>>> Credited to Phil Harris on the RCA Victor.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 3:33 PM, David Lennick 
>> >>>> <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Make that *3* versions where Philsy takes sole credit..originally
>> >>>>> recorded
>> >>>>> for
>> >>>>> Vocalion (3583) in 1937, titled "The Groove Song (That's What I 
>> >>>>> Like
>> >>>>> About
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>> South)". Then ARA RM 104 in 1945, then Victor (which version I 
>> >>>>> don't
>> >>>>> have
>> >>>>> handy
>> >>>>> to check).
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> dl
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Taylor Bowie wrote:
>> >>>>>> Ken wrote about That's What I Like About The South:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Perhaps he [Harris] did contribute something to the lyrics or 
>> >>>>>>> music.
>> >>>>>>> Or
>> >>>>>>> maybe
>> >>>>>>> his celebrity status was seen as a way to boost sales. I've read 
>> >>>>>>> that
>> >>>>>>> some question the legitimacy of Al Jolson's composer credit on 
>> >>>>>>> some
>> >>>>>>> songs suggesting that he forced his way in because of his 
>> >>>>>>> celebrity
>> >>>>>>> status.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> -- Ken
>> >>>>>> There seem to be plenty of cases where a bandleader, promoter, 
>> >>>>>> star,
>> >>>>> etc.
>> >>>>>> was able to add his name to song credits (Ben Bernie, Abe Lyman,
>> >>>>>> Irving
>> >>>>>> Mills, etc.) but I've never seen a case where the credit actually
>> >>>>>> seems
>> >>>>> to
>> >>>>>> change...the labels on the two Phil Harris records give "Harris" 
>> >>>>>> as the
>> >>>>> only
>> >>>>>> song writing credit. But I can't find any current reference on 
>> >>>>>> line
>> >>>>> which
>> >>>>>> gives Harris any credit at all (earned or otherwise) .
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I know the tune was covered by other bands, including Bob Wills. 
>> >>>>>> I'd
>> >>>>>> be
>> >>>>>> curious as to the composer credit on some of those other records, 
>> >>>>>> esp.
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>>> earlier ones.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Taylor
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
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