[78-L] Phil Harris/Andy Razaf

Mon Nov 9 17:56:56 PST 2009

The versions by Harris, Wills, and Bruner are virtually identical. The only thing missing is Harris's fade-in and fade-out on the Vocalion version.

Cary Ginell

> From: bowiebks at isomedia.com
> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:43:11 -0800
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Phil Harris/Andy Razaf
> 
> Another question would be if the Razaf and Harris versions are the same, or 
> does Phil's "take" on the tune have clear differences?
> 
> As someone else pointed out, few people would ever have heard the thing 
> (not to be confused with The Thing) if it weren't for Phil.
> 
> Taylor
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Cary Ginell" <soundthink at live.com>
> To: <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 5:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Phil Harris/Andy Razaf
> 
> 
> >
> > Checked my copies of "That's What I Like 'Bout the South" - I have two 
> > non-Harris versions, by Bob Wills (Vocalion, 1938) and Cliff Bruner 
> > (Decca, 1944). Both show Razaf as the sole writer. All versions that I 
> > have by Harris show Harris as the writer. I wonder if Harris and Razaf 
> > didn't strike a deal on this, whereby Harris would receive credit on all 
> > of his recordings of the song while Razaf got credit on all others plus 
> > royalties.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cary Ginell
> >
> >> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:29:50 -0500
> >> From: dlennick at sympatico.ca
> >> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> >> Subject: Re: [78-L] Phil Harris/Andy Razaf
> >>
> >> It's still "Harris" on the 1958 Camden LP.
> >>
> >> dl
> >>
> >> Cary Ginell wrote:
> >> > I believe I have several. Will check them when I get home.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Cary Ginell
> >> >
> >> >> From: bowiebks at isomedia.com
> >> >> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> >> >> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:16:13 -0800
> >> >> Subject: Re: [78-L] Phil Harris/Andy Razaf
> >> >>
> >> >> Or maybe "leased" it, and the rights eventually reverted back to the 
> >> >> Razaf
> >> >> estate?
> >> >>
> >> >> Some interesting guesses here...does anyone have a record which 
> >> >> contains a
> >> >> later version (Asleep At The Wheel, etc.) so they could check the 
> >> >> composer
> >> >> credit there?
> >> >>
> >> >> Taylor
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> >> From: "David Lennick" <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
> >> >> To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> >> >> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 2:08 PM
> >> >> Subject: Re: [78-L] Phil Harris/Andy Razaf
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>> Is it possible that he bought the song from Razaf?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> dl
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Royal Pemberton wrote:
> >> >>>> Credited to Phil Harris on the RCA Victor.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 3:33 PM, David Lennick 
> >> >>>> <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> Make that *3* versions where Philsy takes sole credit..originally
> >> >>>>> recorded
> >> >>>>> for
> >> >>>>> Vocalion (3583) in 1937, titled "The Groove Song (That's What I 
> >> >>>>> Like
> >> >>>>> About
> >> >>>>> the
> >> >>>>> South)". Then ARA RM 104 in 1945, then Victor (which version I 
> >> >>>>> don't
> >> >>>>> have
> >> >>>>> handy
> >> >>>>> to check).
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> dl
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Taylor Bowie wrote:
> >> >>>>>> Ken wrote about That's What I Like About The South:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Perhaps he [Harris] did contribute something to the lyrics or 
> >> >>>>>>> music.
> >> >>>>>>> Or
> >> >>>>>>> maybe
> >> >>>>>>> his celebrity status was seen as a way to boost sales. I've read 
> >> >>>>>>> that
> >> >>>>>>> some question the legitimacy of Al Jolson's composer credit on 
> >> >>>>>>> some
> >> >>>>>>> songs suggesting that he forced his way in because of his 
> >> >>>>>>> celebrity
> >> >>>>>>> status.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> -- Ken
> >> >>>>>> There seem to be plenty of cases where a bandleader, promoter, 
> >> >>>>>> star,
> >> >>>>> etc.
> >> >>>>>> was able to add his name to song credits (Ben Bernie, Abe Lyman,
> >> >>>>>> Irving
> >> >>>>>> Mills, etc.) but I've never seen a case where the credit actually
> >> >>>>>> seems
> >> >>>>> to
> >> >>>>>> change...the labels on the two Phil Harris records give "Harris" 
> >> >>>>>> as the
> >> >>>>> only
> >> >>>>>> song writing credit. But I can't find any current reference on 
> >> >>>>>> line
> >> >>>>> which
> >> >>>>>> gives Harris any credit at all (earned or otherwise) .
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> I know the tune was covered by other bands, including Bob Wills. 
> >> >>>>>> I'd
> >> >>>>>> be
> >> >>>>>> curious as to the composer credit on some of those other records, 
> >> >>>>>> esp.
> >> >>>>> the
> >> >>>>>> earlier ones.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Taylor
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
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