[78-L] Now's your chance, boys and girls
Steve Thornton
fnarf at comcast.net
Thu Nov 5 04:33:45 PST 2009
And here's a lesson for you, Jason:
"the welcome of some members of an online group dedicated" to ANYTHING ALL
ALL can "so quickly turn hostile." Nature of the beast. Doesn't mean
anything. Doesn't mean the people here are bastards (though they could well
be, I dunno). It just means that folks get testy sometimes, and it's harder
to communicate subtlety by typing than it looks sometimes.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
> [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of Jason Beard
> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 2:27 PM
> To: 78-L Mail List
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Now's your chance, boys and girls
>
> Steve,
>
> Thank you again for your kind (and VERY humorous) reply.
> I never knew that the welcome of some members of an online
> group dedicated to collecting and preserving 78 rpm records
> could so quickly turn hostile. I merely joined the group to
> learn details of recordings from yesteryear, and NOT to have
> the rather viperous comments subtract from my enjoyment. Who
> knew that this Vogue Picture record discussion could arouse
> anger; certainly NOT what I intended. Phil Spitalny must be
> spinning in his grave...
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Steve Thornton <fnarf at comcast.net>
> To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> Sent: Thu, November 5, 2009 3:37:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Now's your chance, boys and girls
>
> If I may translate for Mr. Beard, I think what he was saying was
>
> "My dear Mr. Lennick, in light of your 40 years of
> professional etc., your
> unstumpable head for even the most obscure trivia, and your
> mindboggling
> trove of stories -- not to mention the stylish and engrossing
> way you tell
> them -- perhaps you could put on your raconteur hat for a
> moment and favor
> those of us who lack all of the above with some expounding of
> your reasons
> for not liking Mr. Lenny? Because based on past evidence this
> is likely to
> be witty and illuminating. Us young'uns usually only get the
> hagiography."
>
> That's what I heard, anyways.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
> > [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of
> Jason Beard
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 12:26 PM
> > To: 78-L Mail List
> > Subject: Re: [78-L] Now's your chance, boys and girls
> >
> > Steve,
> >
> > That's all it was....my personal view......thanks for your
> > welcome and kind comment. Yes, I've certainly encountered
> > some "thin-skinners" on the board, but hoped, perhaps, that
> > there were a great many 78 rpm enthusiasts here who didn't
> > take the hobby so seriously. Let's face it, it's a HOBBY,
> > such as stamp collecting, film collecting and so
> > forth....When a hobby becomes such a serious matter that we
> > lose sight of reality, then it's best to take a step back and
> > realize what matters most in life.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Steve Thornton <fnarf at comcast.net>
> > To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> > Sent: Thu, November 5, 2009 3:01:57 AM
> > Subject: Re: [78-L] Now's your chance, boys and girls
> >
> > Wow, you folks got some thin skins. I didn't see any snark in
> > Jason's post
> > at all. I thought he was trying to be clever, and paying you
> > a compliment in
> > the process.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
> > > [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of
> > > David Lennick
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 11:53 AM
> > > To: 78-L Mail List
> > > Subject: Re: [78-L] Now's your chance, boys and girls
> > >
> > > For a newcomer, you certainly have more than your fair share
> > > of snarkiness. I
> > > don't have to justify my opinions of Mr. Bernstein to you or
> > > anyone else. I
> > > bring 40 years of professional work as a music programmer,
> > > classical deejay,
> > > record producer, reissue transfer engineer, reviewer, liner
> > > note writer et al.
> > > Don't like my opinions? Don't read 'em. I won't be reading
> > > any of yours.
> > >
> > > dl
> > >
> > > Jason Beard wrote:
> > > > I am truly impressed at your almost encyclopedic knowledge
> > > of, as you refer to him, "Lenny's" career, even though you
> > > wrote that you "...have very little respect for (him) as a
> > > musician, a composer and a human being...." Everyone whom you
> > > dislike should be given such a high honor; please feel free
> > > to subtly, yet briefly, vent your anger toward "Lenny" in
> > > this thread, WHICH, I believe, began as a thread for Vogue
> > > Picture Records.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
> > > > To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> > > > Sent: Wed, November 4, 2009 1:25:41 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [78-L] Now's your chance, boys and girls
> > > >
> > > > You find me anyone who hasn't referred to him as "Lenny"
> > > over the last 60 years
> > > > and I'll buy you lunch. He even worked as "Lenny Amber"
> > while doing
> > > > arrangements for Harms in his early years.
> > > >
> > > > Incidentally, I have very little respect for Leonard
> > > Bernstein as a musician, a
> > > > composer and a human being. I find many of his later
> > > performances eccentric and
> > > > unlistenable, I find much of his symphonic work derivative
> > > and full of outright
> > > > plagiarism, and I think the man had blood on his hands.
> > > That aside, he still
> > > > turned out a couple of theatrical masterpieces.
> > > >
> > > > dl
> > > >
> > > > Jason Beard wrote:
> > > >> David,
> > > >>
> > > >> It's indeed an honor to learn that you were of such
> > > a great acquaintance with Mr. Bernstein, that you felt free
> > > to address him as 'Lenny". Not many of us are in your league.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> ________________________________
> > > >> From: David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
> > > >> To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> > > >> Sent: Wed, November 4, 2009 11:41:21 AM
> > > >> Subject: Re: [78-L] Now's your chance, boys and girls
> > > >>
> > > >> It's of its time. Anybody could and did play the Rhapsody
> > > in Blue. Even today,
> > > >> there are versions of it that are unbelievably ghastly,
> > > some of them by well
> > > >> known artists who should have known better (Lenny
> > > Burnsteen being the worst
> > > >> offender, Andre Previn coming in second, with a special
> > > award going to every
> > > >> Paul Whiteman version with the distorted rhythms and the
> > > heavenly choir).
> > > >> Spitalny's choral sides make me to barf, but again,
> > > they're of the period.
> > > >>
> > > >> dl
> > > >>
> > > >> Jason Beard wrote:
> > > >>> I disagree...from the little I've heard, I recommend it
> > > to lovers of great music.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> ________________________________
> > > >>> From: David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
> > > >>> To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> > > >>> Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 7:14:22 PM
> > > >>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Now's your chance, boys and girls
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The Spitooney set is one of the most common..although
> > > I've never found it in
> > > >>> the box. In an album, a couple of times..as individual
> > > discs, a couple of
> > > >>> times..and the Rhapsody issued separately, once.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Some Vogues are even worth listening to. The Study in
> > > Blue isn't one of them.
> > > >>> One that is is Enric Madriguera's "Minute Samba" which
> > > has a neat little fiddle
> > > >>> & guitar chorus reminiscent of Grappelli & Django.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> dl
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Jason Beard wrote:
> > > >>>> I SERIOUSLY doubt that the seller will receive thier
> > > asking price. If not, just wait them out.....eventually,
> > > they'll realize that their price is a dream, and just
> > > that...a dream. Let's cool our thoughts for a while, but BOY,
> > > would I love to own the phonograph! In this life, NEVER say
> > > never...and the seller will ship from Switzerland, is it?
> > > SERIOUS thoughts of ill-packing possible...broken
> > > discs...etc. I own one of the sets...by Phil Spitalny and his
> > > All-Girl Orchestra...in the original "box". I paid the lavish
> > > price of (drumroll please....) $2.00. EXCELLENT
> > > condition...no scratches or scuffs. The illustration work on
> > > that set is incredible, ESPECIALLY on "Blue Skies".
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> ________________________________
> > > >>>> From: "fnarf at comcast.net" <fnarf at comcast.net>
> > > >>>> To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> > > >>>> Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 5:12:53 PM
> > > >>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Now's your chance, boys and girls
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Dang, these "selling as a lot only, don't ask about
> > > pieces" people are stupid.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> The number of people who are hot to get ahold of a
> > > complete collection of Vogues, but currently have zero of
> > > them, has got to be zero. EVERYBODY with any interest in any
> > > part of this wants more parts, to fill his gaps, not the whole.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Some of those items are indeed spectacularly rare, and
> > > undoubtedly worth a lot. You get two guys with everything
> > > except those "ultra rare" items listed going against each
> > > other, and you've got yourself an auction. But they're not
> > > going to bid on a complete lot.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> The ONLY person who's going to bid on this is a dealer
> > > with deep pockets looking to break the set up, IF he looks at
> > > the list and sees a profit there as single items. This seller
> > > here could have that profit for himself if he had a brain.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Won't sell.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >>>> From: "David Lennick" <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
> > > >>>> To: "78L" <78-L at 78online.com>
> > > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2009 1:53:49 PM GMT -08:00
> > > US/Canada Pacific
> > > >>>> Subject: [78-L] Now's your chance, boys and girls
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Got $300,000 lying around? And that's the STARTING bid.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> http://tinyurl.com/yl3xx4n
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> dl
> > > >>>>
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