[78-L] Now's your chance, boys and girls

Wed Nov 4 14:59:42 PST 2009

Jason, you're not alone.  It's happened to me from others occasionally here
too.  God forbid I should ever tell someone who asks when a certain record
was recorded, and gives the matrix number, something like 'that looks to be
about early 1938 or so', if the record is on a certain label.  I will not
name names, the person who did this I've not seen round in a long while, but
this person was a right asshole and tore me off a strip for that.  I learned
that if someone else asks about any records on that label, I daren't say
anything, and just let someone else who has the discography the asshole
wrote look it up.

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Jason Beard <soundssights71 at yahoo.com>wrote:

> Steve,
>
>     Thank you again for your kind (and VERY humorous) reply. I never knew
> that the welcome of some members of an online group dedicated to collecting
> and preserving 78 rpm records could so quickly turn hostile. I merely joined
> the group to learn details of recordings from yesteryear, and NOT to have
> the rather viperous comments subtract from my enjoyment. Who knew that this
> Vogue Picture record discussion could arouse anger; certainly NOT what I
> intended. Phil Spitalny must be spinning in his grave...
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Steve Thornton <fnarf at comcast.net>
> To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> Sent: Thu, November 5, 2009 3:37:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Now's your chance, boys and girls
>
> If I may translate for Mr. Beard, I think what he was saying was
>
> "My dear Mr. Lennick, in light of your 40 years of professional etc., your
> unstumpable head for even the most obscure trivia, and your mindboggling
> trove of stories -- not to mention the stylish and engrossing way you tell
> them -- perhaps you could put on your raconteur hat for a moment and favor
> those of us who lack all of the above with some expounding of your reasons
> for not liking Mr. Lenny? Because based on past evidence this is likely to
> be witty and illuminating. Us young'uns usually only get the hagiography."
>
> That's what I heard, anyways.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
> > [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of Jason Beard
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 12:26 PM
> > To: 78-L Mail List
> > Subject: Re: [78-L] Now's your chance, boys and girls
> >
> > Steve,
> >
> >    That's all it was....my personal view......thanks for your
> > welcome and kind comment. Yes, I've certainly encountered
> > some "thin-skinners" on the board, but hoped, perhaps, that
> > there were a great many 78 rpm enthusiasts here who didn't
> > take the hobby so seriously. Let's face it, it's a HOBBY,
> > such as stamp collecting, film collecting and so
> > forth....When a hobby becomes such a serious matter that we
> > lose sight of reality, then it's best to take a step back and
> > realize what matters most in life.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Steve Thornton <fnarf at comcast.net>
> > To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> > Sent: Thu, November 5, 2009 3:01:57 AM
> > Subject: Re: [78-L] Now's your chance, boys and girls
> >
> > Wow, you folks got some thin skins. I didn't see any snark in
> > Jason's post
> > at all. I thought he was trying to be clever, and paying you
> > a compliment in
> > the process.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
> > > [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of
> > > David Lennick
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 11:53 AM
> > > To: 78-L Mail List
> > > Subject: Re: [78-L] Now's your chance, boys and girls
> > >
> > > For a newcomer, you certainly have more than your fair share
> > > of snarkiness. I
> > > don't have to justify my opinions of Mr. Bernstein to you or
> > > anyone else. I
> > > bring 40 years of professional work as a music programmer,
> > > classical deejay,
> > > record producer, reissue transfer engineer, reviewer, liner
> > > note writer et al.
> > > Don't like my opinions? Don't read 'em. I won't be reading
> > > any of yours.
> > >
> > > dl
> > >
> > > Jason Beard wrote:
> > > > I am truly impressed at your almost encyclopedic knowledge
> > > of, as you refer to him, "Lenny's" career, even though you
> > > wrote that you "...have very little respect for (him) as a
> > > musician, a composer and a human being...." Everyone whom you
> > > dislike should be given such a high honor; please feel free
> > > to subtly, yet briefly, vent your anger toward "Lenny" in
> > > this thread, WHICH, I believe, began as a thread for Vogue
> > > Picture Records.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
> > > > To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> > > > Sent: Wed, November 4, 2009 1:25:41 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [78-L] Now's your chance, boys and girls
> > > >
> > > > You find me anyone who hasn't referred to him as "Lenny"
> > > over the last 60 years
> > > > and I'll buy you lunch. He even worked as "Lenny Amber"
> > while doing
> > > > arrangements for Harms in his early years.
> > > >
> > > > Incidentally, I have very little respect for Leonard
> > > Bernstein as a musician, a
> > > > composer and a human being. I find many of his later
> > > performances eccentric and
> > > > unlistenable, I find much of his symphonic work derivative
> > > and full of outright
> > > > plagiarism, and I think the man had blood on his hands.
> > > That aside, he still
> > > > turned out a couple of theatrical masterpieces.
> > > >
> > > > dl
> > > >
> > > > Jason Beard wrote:
> > > >> David,
> > > >>
> > > >>      It's indeed an honor to learn that you were of such
> > > a great acquaintance with Mr. Bernstein, that you felt free
> > > to address him as 'Lenny". Not many of us are in your league.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> ________________________________
> > > >> From: David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
> > > >> To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> > > >> Sent: Wed, November 4, 2009 11:41:21 AM
> > > >> Subject: Re: [78-L] Now's your chance, boys and girls
> > > >>
> > > >> It's of its time. Anybody could and did play the Rhapsody
> > > in Blue. Even today,
> > > >> there are versions of it that are unbelievably ghastly,
> > > some of them by well
> > > >> known artists who should have known better (Lenny
> > > Burnsteen being the worst
> > > >> offender, Andre Previn coming in second, with a special
> > > award going to every
> > > >> Paul Whiteman version with the distorted rhythms and the
> > > heavenly choir).
> > > >> Spitalny's choral sides make me to barf, but again,
> > > they're of the period.
> > > >>
> > > >> dl
> > > >>
> > > >> Jason Beard wrote:
> > > >>> I disagree...from the little I've heard, I recommend it
> > > to lovers of great music.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> ________________________________
> > > >>> From: David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
> > > >>> To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> > > >>> Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 7:14:22 PM
> > > >>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Now's your chance, boys and girls
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The Spitooney set is one of the most common..although
> > > I've never found it in
> > > >>> the box. In an album, a couple of times..as individual
> > > discs, a couple of
> > > >>> times..and the Rhapsody issued separately, once.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Some Vogues are even worth listening to. The Study in
> > > Blue isn't one of them.
> > > >>> One that is is Enric Madriguera's "Minute Samba" which
> > > has a neat little fiddle
> > > >>> & guitar chorus reminiscent of Grappelli & Django.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> dl
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Jason Beard wrote:
> > > >>>> I SERIOUSLY doubt that the seller will receive thier
> > > asking price. If not, just wait them out.....eventually,
> > > they'll realize that their price is a dream, and just
> > > that...a dream. Let's cool our thoughts for a while, but BOY,
> > > would I love to own the phonograph! In this life, NEVER say
> > > never...and the seller will ship from Switzerland, is it?
> > > SERIOUS thoughts of ill-packing possible...broken
> > > discs...etc. I own one of the sets...by Phil Spitalny and his
> > > All-Girl Orchestra...in the original "box". I paid the lavish
> > > price of (drumroll please....) $2.00. EXCELLENT
> > > condition...no scratches or scuffs. The illustration work on
> > > that set is incredible, ESPECIALLY on "Blue Skies".
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> ________________________________
> > > >>>> From: "fnarf at comcast.net" <fnarf at comcast.net>
> > > >>>> To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> > > >>>> Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 5:12:53 PM
> > > >>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Now's your chance, boys and girls
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Dang, these "selling as a lot only, don't ask about
> > > pieces" people are stupid.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> The number of people who are hot to get ahold of a
> > > complete collection of Vogues, but currently have zero of
> > > them, has got to be zero. EVERYBODY with any interest in any
> > > part of this wants more parts, to fill his gaps, not the whole.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Some of those items are indeed spectacularly rare, and
> > > undoubtedly worth a lot. You get two guys with everything
> > > except those "ultra rare" items listed going against each
> > > other, and you've got yourself an auction. But they're not
> > > going to bid on a complete lot.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> The ONLY person who's going to bid on this is a dealer
> > > with deep pockets looking to break the set up, IF he looks at
> > > the list and sees a profit there as single items. This seller
> > > here could have that profit for himself if he had a brain.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Won't sell.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >>>> From: "David Lennick" <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
> > > >>>> To: "78L" <78-L at 78online.com>
> > > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2009 1:53:49 PM GMT -08:00
> > > US/Canada Pacific
> > > >>>> Subject: [78-L] Now's your chance, boys and girls
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Got $300,000 lying around? And that's the STARTING bid.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> http://tinyurl.com/yl3xx4n
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> dl
> > > >>>>
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