[78-L] Alternate Folkway Jazz Vol 6

[Thomas Stern]

Here's the key - as the notes state - to figure out what the original
Chicago No.2 contained, you have to scan the listings of titles for the
series which is contained
in the notes for Vol.11.  These are online on the Smithsonian-Folkways
website, so
I've extracted the following:
 Four tracks (A5,A6,A7,B1) were replaced.

 A1 Sweet Lovin' Man               King Oliver Creole Jazz Band
 A2 Sweet Lovin' Man               New Orleans Rhythm Kings
 A3 Jazz Me Blues                  Wolverine Orchestra
 A4 Sister Kate                    Charles Pierce and His Orchestra
 A5 BULL FROG BLUES                Charles Pierce and His Orchestra
 A6 CHINA BOY                      Charles Pierce and His Orchestra
 A7 NOBODY'S SWEETHEART            Charles Pierce and His Orchestra
 B1 LAUGHING AT YOU                Bud Jacobson's Jungle Kings
 B2 Margie                         Bix Beiderbecke and His Gang
 B3 Jazz Me Blues                  Frank Teschemacher's Chicagoans
 B4 Sugar                          McKenzie-Condon's Chicagoans
 B5 China Boy                      McKenzie-Condon's Chicagoans
 B6 Nobody's Sweetheart            McKenzie-Condon's Chicagoans
 B7 There'll Be Some Changes Made  McKenzie-Condon's Chicagoans

It would be nice to verify this if someone actually has the original issue,
Incidentally, albums with catalog number FP 65 are also ALTERNATE, so it
would
have to be a first/early pressing.
  Best wishes, Thomas.

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I have found another reference which lists FP 65 as the issue number -
Anyone HAVE the records?

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[mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com]On Behalf Of Thomas Stern
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JAZZ 6 Chicago No.2 original issue was FP 67, subsequent issues FJ 2806
Perhaps someone has a copy of FP 67 or the booklet, can provide track list.
I do not see any listing for the original in worldcat.
The Smithsonia-Folkways website lists 2806 ALTERNATE with these tracks:
 101 Sweet Lovin' Man          King Oliver Creole Jazz Band 2:49
 102 Sweet Lovin' Man          New Orleans Rhythm Kings (1922-1925) 2:33
 103 Jazz Me Blues             Wolverine Orchestra 2:46
 104 Sister Kate               Charles Pierce and His Orchestra 2:59
 105 Everybody Loves My Baby   The Stomp Six 2:55
 106 Tennessee Twilight        Chicago Rhythm Kings 3:00
 107 Maple Leaf Rag            Paul Mares and His Friar's Society Orchestra
2:57
 201 Somebody Stole My Gal     Bix Beiderbecke and His Gang 2:55
 202 Margie                    Bix Beiderbecke and His Gang 2:53
 203 Jazz Me Blues             Frank Teschemacher's Chicagoans 2:43
 204 Sugar                     McKenzie-Condon's Chicagoans 3:09
 205 China Boy                 McKenzie-Condon's Chicagoans 2:44
 206 Nobody's Sweetheart       McKenzie-Condon's Chicagoans 3:05
 207 There'll Be Some Changes Made  McKenzie-Condon's Chicagoans 3:04

Best wishes, Thomas

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Last week I got a copy of Folkways FJ 2806, Volume VI of Jazz, subtitled
on the labels and booklet -- but not the cover -- "Chicago No. 2
(Alternate)".  They explain:

"There are two versions of Jazz, Volume 6, Chicago No.2.  Both are
indexed; entries to the alternate volume are clearly denoted in the
index by the initials __alt.__, which follow titles, artists, and
instrumentals in the three indices.  There was no choice, in the case of
this volume, but to issue an alternate set.  As explained in the
__Notes__ to Jazz, Volume 11, Addenda, licensing arrangements with
companies controlling original jazz material are subject to revision
without notice, and when such revisions are required, material in the
Folkways Jazz Series will be occasionally required to be altered or
withdrawn.

"In the case of Chicago No 2 some titles conflicted with Riverside
issues put on the market subsequent to release of this volume.  In order
to avoid duplication, conflicting titles have been withdrawn until such
time as the Riverside reissues are no longer current, and the original
plan of reissues for Volume 6 can be restored.  In the meantime, the
editors have done their best to select the very best alternates that can
be chosen to represent Chicago jazz as it developed in the twenties and
thirties."

Can someone give me the original line-up so we can see what the changes
were?  AND, does anyone know if Folkways restored the original line-up
after the Riverside reissue was "no longer current" or when they went
out of business -- whichever came first?  How many volumes had to be
revised?

I was surprised to see this because of the tales that have been told of
Moe Asch not caring too much about clearing rights to reissues.  Did he
do this if RCA or Columbia objected, or only if another marginal company
like Riverside did?  And what version comes from the Smithsonian when
you order this disc?  What if what you want is something on this revised
version and they want to supply the original?? Or do they give you a
choice?

Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com


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