[78-L] Alternate Folkway Jazz Vol 6

Sat Sep 12 16:56:37 PDT 2009

I have a copy of FJ2806 - not the original pressing, but one from 1958. Here's the track list:

SIDE 1

Sweet Lovin' Man - King Oliver's Jazz Band (Ok 4906)

Sweet Lovin' Man - NORK (GE 5104)

Jazz Me Blues - Wolverine Orch. (GE 5408)

Sister Kate - Charles Pierce & his Orch. (Pmt 12640)

Everybody Loves My Baby - The Stomp Six (Auto 626)

Tennessee Twilight - Chicago Rhythm Kings (BrF500406)

Maple Leaf Rag - Paul Mares & His Friars' Society Orch. (Ok 41574)

SIDE 2

Somebody Stole My Gal - Bix Beiderbecke & his Gang (Ok 41030)

Margie - Bix Beiderbecke & his Gang (Parlophone E R2833)

Jazz Me Blues - Frank Teschemacher's Chicagoans (UHCA 61)

Sugar - McKenzie-Condon's Chicagoans (Ok 41011)

China Boy - McKenzie-Condon's Chicagoans (Ok 41011)

Nobody's Sweetheart - McKenzie-Condon's Chicagoans (Ok 40971)

There'll Be Some Changes Made - McKenzie-Condon's Chicagoans (BR 4001)

Cary Ginell

> From: sternth at attglobal.net
> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 18:27:16 -0400
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Alternate Folkway Jazz Vol 6
> 
> I have found another reference which lists FP 65 as the issue number -
> Anyone HAVE the records?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
> [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com]On Behalf Of Thomas Stern
> Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 6:03 PM
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> Subject: Re: [78-L] Alternate Folkway Jazz Vol 6
> 
> 
> JAZZ 6 Chicago No.2 original issue was FP 67, subsequent issues FJ 2806
> Perhaps someone has a copy of FP 67 or the booklet, can provide track list.
> I do not see any listing for the original in worldcat.
> The Smithsonia-Folkways website lists 2806 ALTERNATE with these tracks:
> 101 Sweet Lovin' Man King Oliver Creole Jazz Band 2:49
> 102 Sweet Lovin' Man New Orleans Rhythm Kings (1922-1925) 2:33
> 103 Jazz Me Blues Wolverine Orchestra 2:46
> 104 Sister Kate Charles Pierce and His Orchestra 2:59
> 105 Everybody Loves My Baby The Stomp Six 2:55
> 106 Tennessee Twilight Chicago Rhythm Kings 3:00
> 107 Maple Leaf Rag Paul Mares and His Friar's Society Orchestra
> 2:57
> 201 Somebody Stole My Gal Bix Beiderbecke and His Gang 2:55
> 202 Margie Bix Beiderbecke and His Gang 2:53
> 203 Jazz Me Blues Frank Teschemacher's Chicagoans 2:43
> 204 Sugar McKenzie-Condon's Chicagoans 3:09
> 205 China Boy McKenzie-Condon's Chicagoans 2:44
> 206 Nobody's Sweetheart McKenzie-Condon's Chicagoans 3:05
> 207 There'll Be Some Changes Made McKenzie-Condon's Chicagoans 3:04
> 
> Best wishes, Thomas
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
> [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com]On Behalf Of Michael Biel
> Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 5:06 PM
> To: 78-L Mail List
> Subject: [78-L] Alternate Folkway Jazz Vol 6
> 
> 
> Last week I got a copy of Folkways FJ 2806, Volume VI of Jazz, subtitled
> on the labels and booklet -- but not the cover -- "Chicago No. 2
> (Alternate)". They explain:
> 
> "There are two versions of Jazz, Volume 6, Chicago No.2. Both are
> indexed; entries to the alternate volume are clearly denoted in the
> index by the initials __alt.__, which follow titles, artists, and
> instrumentals in the three indices. There was no choice, in the case of
> this volume, but to issue an alternate set. As explained in the
> __Notes__ to Jazz, Volume 11, Addenda, licensing arrangements with
> companies controlling original jazz material are subject to revision
> without notice, and when such revisions are required, material in the
> Folkways Jazz Series will be occasionally required to be altered or
> withdrawn.
> 
> "In the case of Chicago No 2 some titles conflicted with Riverside
> issues put on the market subsequent to release of this volume. In order
> to avoid duplication, conflicting titles have been withdrawn until such
> time as the Riverside reissues are no longer current, and the original
> plan of reissues for Volume 6 can be restored. In the meantime, the
> editors have done their best to select the very best alternates that can
> be chosen to represent Chicago jazz as it developed in the twenties and
> thirties."
> 
> Can someone give me the original line-up so we can see what the changes
> were? AND, does anyone know if Folkways restored the original line-up
> after the Riverside reissue was "no longer current" or when they went
> out of business -- whichever came first? How many volumes had to be
> revised?
> 
> I was surprised to see this because of the tales that have been told of
> Moe Asch not caring too much about clearing rights to reissues. Did he
> do this if RCA or Columbia objected, or only if another marginal company
> like Riverside did? And what version comes from the Smithsonian when
> you order this disc? What if what you want is something on this revised
> version and they want to supply the original?? Or do they give you a
> choice?
> 
> Mike Biel mbiel at mbiel.com
> 
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