[78-L] Blue wax vs. "plastic"?

[Taylor Bowie]

Hey Mike,

No,  my Pendarvis in question has the inner pressing ring,  no lead-in 
groove.with a very fine-line "MS - 1491" and "1492" in the lead-out.   It 
was part of a run of MacGregors which a collector friend of mine bought some 
30 years ago of Pendarvis and Weeks. .    All the others were the more 
conventional pressings.  My guess is that this was some kind of 1935 freak 
or experiment.  Whatever the story,  it plays very very well.

Since my friend had no use for Pendarvis (and in fact was baffled by my 
enthusiasm for the band) he sold them to me at his cost right after he 
bought them.  Sadly,  he passed away suddenly about 12 years ago (in his 
40s)  and at that time his sister sold me some of his records,  including 
the Weeks MacGregors.

Besides my favored  Pendarvis,  Weeks and Henry Kings,  I imagine I have an 
additional  hundred or so on MacGregor/MacGregor & Solie but have never 
encountered another pressing like this "turquoise plastic" one.

BTW the record store where my friend  bought the MacGregors back around 1978 
or so was on Market Street in San Francisco, and was called the Twentieth 
Century Talking Machine Company.  I don't think they were even open for more 
than a couple of years,  but my friend sure scored a lot of good stuff from 
them while they were around.

Taylor



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Biel" <mbiel at mbiel.com>
To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: [78-L] Blue wax vs. "plastic"?


>I have a couple of pressings like this, but the one I remember has no
> labels and has Columbia-style matrix numbering and the turquoise plastic
> seems almost like styrene.  I had figured it was post-war
> experimentation, and wouldn't there be a possibility that your McGregor
> was a post war re-pressing?  During the laminated years, Allied
> continued to use the small-diameter ring in the label area that denotes
> its Columbia heritage (Allied was the Hollywood Columbia pressing plant
> that had been bought by the employees when Columbia was going to close
> it.)  My label-less pressing has the stamper-mounting ring near the rim
> of the label area like later Columbia pressings.  Is that the same with
> your McGregor?
>
> Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> From: "Taylor Bowie" <bowiebks at isomedia.com>
>
> How about this? One of my fave McGregors is #1491/2 Paul Pendarvis Orch.
>
> "No Other One" b/w "Isn't This A Lovely Day."
>
> Great sweet band sides, amazing hi-fi sound, and...it's pressed on a
> sort
> of light-weight turquoise plastic material...not laminated. It weighs
> very
> little and is slightly flexible.
>
> Anyone have any others like this? It must be from '35 given the tunes.
>
> Taylor
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Malcolm Rockwell" <malcolm at 78data.com>
> To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 11:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Blue wax Columbia date??
>
>
>> Yes. Blue discs appear on MacGregor, the 10" records anyhow.
>> Mal
>>
>> *******
>>
>> David Lennick wrote:
>>> Blue Wax Brunswicks and Vocalions were a West Coast phenomenon, no? 
>>> There
>>> are
>>> also lots of bluish transcriptions pressed by Allied, and MGM's 
>>> playbacks
>>> sometimes were on dark blue shellac as late as 1941.
>>>
>>> dl
>>>
>>> Malcolm Rockwell wrote:
>>>
>>>> So, it has been proven that the Blue Wax Columbias were not just a West
>>>> Coast phenomenon? And that they were also pressed on the East Coast?
>>>> Mal
>>>>
>>>> *******
>>>>
>>>> David Lennick wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> David Weiner wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Blue Wax pressings were made from 1932 to 1934, right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> On the East and West Coast, through most of 1936. The highest East
>>>>>> Coast
>>>>>> blue pressing I have is 3125-D, recorded in April 1936. The highest
>>>>>> West
>>>>>> Coast blue pressing I have is 3134-D, recorded in May 1936.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dave Weiner
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Right..I even HAVE the 1935 catalog, titled "Blue Wax Catalog", and
>>>>> forgot how
>>>>> late these things went. There are several acousticals still listed in
>>>>> it, and
>>>>> presumably they'd sold well enough to be in print that late and exist
>>>>> as BW.
>>>>>
>>>>> dl
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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