[78-L] How well did they do it

[Royal Pemberton]

Victor acoustics with an 'S/8' take digit are acoustic dubs.  (Victor
17696-B, 'British troops passing through Boulogne', anyone?)

Did Columbia do any acoustic-era dubbing?

Wasn't there a Victor of Cantor Rosenblatt that was dubbed to edit it
for time reasons?

Tape was used to master 78s when they began using it for 45s.  (And
aren't many early 45s mastered from the same disc sources as used for
the 78s thereof?)

And Patti Page was often direct-to-disc-to-disc-to-disc-to-disc....



On 4/30/09, joe at salerno.com <jsalerno at earthlink.net> wrote:
> I stand corrected!
>
> Some were direct to direct one generation removed. Direct to direct to
> disc. I did not know about the substitution of voice for a high note. Do
> you know the year of the recording you reference? I assume it was
> electrical?
>
> I knew the AFRS could delete a word or a phrase or a commercial, but
> those were transcriptions, not 78s.
>
> Would it be safe to say that no ACOUSTICAL records were ever documented
> to have been edited in this manner? (save for Mr. Caruso, and they did
> not change anything that he recorded, they only added more music there to)
>
> Actually, even the Pathes were not all direct to disc, they were bumped
> from master cylinders.....my universe is crumbling.
>
> joe salerno
>
>
> Michael Biel wrote:
>> joe at salerno.com wrote:
>>> 78s were all direct to disc,
>>
>> No No No No NO!!!!!!!!!!  They weren't ALL direct-to-disc.  From around
>> 1940 practically no Columbia 78 were direct-to-disc.  They were almost
>> all dubs from 16-inch 33s.   Same with many other companies including
>> Decca.
>>>  no tape editing, there's an honesty about
>>> them. no technical assistance to correct a flaw.
>>
>> There are many instances of modifications and editing.  I forget which
>> singers, but there is a famous opera recording where a different soprano
>> is edited in on the final high note.  I noted many places in the Victor
>> ledger sheets for Spike Jones where they redubbed a master to tone down
>> a gunshot or some other thing like that.  And don't forget the Caruso's
>> with the electrically recorded orchestra over the dubbed voice.
>>> what you play is what you get.   joe salerno
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Don't be so sure!!
>>
>> Mike Biel   mbiel at mbiel.com
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