[78-L] The Grafonola in the Classroom and Col A7505

Royal Pemberton ampex354 at gmail.com
Fri Feb 27 18:11:53 PST 2009


I can do that to these new recordings.  I had done so with the
original transfers of the acoustic recording, but the original is such
a poor recording, I really couldn't bring much out at all.  Thanks
anyway!

On 2/28/09, Malcolm Rockwell <malcolm at 78data.com> wrote:
> Right. I used the electric as my example to you because if it blasts on
> a record that is louder than another, as in your examples, the wear
> and/ot hardening of the reproducer gasket, and it's aural effect, will
> be more easily discernible.
> Using the acoustic recording as an example for kindergarteners might not
> be a good idea  since they probably won't understand the speaker and you
> can't very well give them a written sheet to follow, either! And finding
> a better copy is problematic.
> You could still try using a graphic or parametric equalizer to increase
> intelligibility of your recording. It's worth a shot.
> Best,
> Mal Rockwell
>
> *******
>
> Royal Pemberton wrote:
>> Well....if I only knew where I could get the proper rubber gaskets for
>> it.  About 30 years ago I improvised, and used some pieces of 16 gauge
>> vinyl insulated wire, cut to fit, to replace the original, dried,
>> shrunken, cracked, rattle-prone parts.  Also, that copy of '42nd
>> street' is very worn, and the needle wasn't far behind.
>>
>> I take it you mean as well, playing the other record on it really
>> didn't do much of anything towards increasing intelligibility of it?
>>
>>
>> On 2/28/09, Malcolm Rockwell <malcolm at 78data.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sounds like you need to rebuild your reproducer.
>>> The sound breaks up in the upper mids on the "42nd Street" cut.
>>> The other three cuts are... well... er...
>>> Mal
>>>
>>> *******
>>>
>>> Royal Pemberton wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here's a few attempts at actually playing S7505 on my portable
>>>> Grafonola, and recording it with a Neumann U47fet mike.
>>>>
>>>> I first tried 'Busy Mary' with the mike about 2 feet away, 'looking
>>>> down' at the machine, trying to capture partly the horn's sound, and
>>>> partly the rest of the machine, including the lid.  Here's the result:
>>>>  http://www.box.net/shared/jcma8zsgu1
>>>>
>>>> Not satisfied with this, I tried miking the horn straight on, about 9
>>>> inches away.  It seemed to 'focus' the sound somehow, and I recorded
>>>> both sides of the record in this manner.
>>>>
>>>> 'Busy Mary':  http://www.box.net/shared/yayp0nihe5
>>>>
>>>> 'The toyman's shop':  http://www.box.net/shared/gns6ofb7fj
>>>>
>>>> Before I tried S7505, I tried an electric 78 on the Grafonola, to
>>>> check the miking, which is how I arrived at the first miking of 'Busy
>>>> Mary'.  Here's an excerpt of the electric 78 I used, Don Bestor's
>>>> orchestra playing 'Forty-second street' on Victor 24253 :
>>>> http://www.box.net/shared/9zprck1lhi
>>>>
>>>> On 2/26/09, Steven C. Barr <stevenc at interlinks.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> ---- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Michael Biel" <mbiel at mbiel.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Royal Pemberton wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have the transfers of the May Murray record done.  As mentioned
>>>>>>> before, the recording was not terribly clear, but I have tried to
>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>> it as intelligible as possible with equalisation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would a child really be able to understand the words of the record,
>>>>>> especially on an acoustical machine in a classroom???
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tha catalogue number is actually S7505; labels state School Series
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> further state Story Record/Kindergarten.  Transfers made at 78.26
>>>>>>> rpm.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you hear the repeating clunk that was right in tempo with "La zy
>>>>>> Ma
>>>>>> ry, La zy Ma ry, La zy Ma ry . . . "  the first time the sequence
>>>>>> happens halfway thru the record.
>>>>>> Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> In fact, ALL the numbers that seem to be "missing" from Columbia's
>>>>> A3000 "pop" series were issued (or intended to be) in Columbia's
>>>>> "Educational" series....A3001 through A3??? as well as the A75##
>>>>> 12" series. As someone noted, the early issues bore an "S" prefix...
>>>>> for "School."
>>>>>
>>>>> ...stevenc
>>>>>
>>>>>
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