[78-L] Dates on AFRS transcriptions

David Lennick dlennick at sympatico.ca
Mon Jan 5 15:32:09 PST 2009


It does however answer my original question and prove that the date on the disc 
has nothing to do with the date of mastering or compiling, but seems to 
represent when most of the material on the discs originated.

dl

joe at salerno.com wrote:
> So BTW here is another documented example of a run off date on an AFRS 
> ET being incorrect.
> 
> joe salerno
> 
> 
> David Lennick wrote:
>> I've sent Joe the specifics off list, but the AFRS set is New York Philharmonic 
>> Program #59, and the date on the discs is October *21* 1945, not October 28. So 
>> which is it, I wonder? V-Disc Book says October 28th.
>>
>> dl
>>
>> joe at salerno.com wrote:
>>> This ads more mystery to the thing. What AFRS set is it that contains 
>>> the Kapell/Rodzinski?
>>>
>>> C'mon, you knew I was going to ask, for discographical purposes at least...
>>>
>>> joe salerno
>>>
>>>
>>> David Lennick wrote:
>>>> That's odd, because I HAVE the Kapell-Rodzinski Rhapsody on AFRS (and on 
>>>> V-Disc)..they must have split the concert. I think there was half a Mahler 
>>>> Symphony on the same set of discs. I sent Richard Rodzinski a copy, since he 
>>>> didn't have this program.
>>>>
>>>> dl
>>>>
>>>> joe at salerno.com wrote:
>>>>> Don't know about popular, but in the case of classical AFRS ET dates are 
>>>>> MOSTLY correct, as far as I know. I've documented one instance in which 
>>>>> they substituted material without a note on the date.
>>>>>
>>>>> This instance was the Oct 28, 1945 performance of the Paganini Rhapsody 
>>>>> with Kapell/Rodzinski/NYPS. This performance was issued on V-Discs. On 
>>>>> the AFRS release of the same concert, the orchestral selections are 
>>>>> there, but Kapell is nowhere to be found. For his portion they 
>>>>> substituted the Strauss Burlesque with Arrau from a few weeks before. 
>>>>> That additional date is not given in the run out, like anyone cared, nor 
>>>>> does the announcer mention the fact that there was a different conductor 
>>>>> for the Strauss on that other date, whose name I am not thinking of at 
>>>>> the moment.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have wondered if the AFRS & V-Disc producers cooperated in such 
>>>>> matters to avoid redundancy in sending material to the troops, or if 
>>>>> this was the decision of some conscientious program planner, or an 
>>>>> accident. I've never encountered this any other instance, or known of 
>>>>> some incident to check on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone else on the list know of such an occurence?
>>>>>
>>>>> joe salerno
>>>>>



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