[78-L] Toscanini LMEs

[David Lennick]

Michael Biel wrote:
> 
> We have also been totally concerned with when the LPs were ISSUED.  How 
> often do we consider issue dates of 78s??!!!  

Constantly, when I need to prove that a given record is over 50 years old. Gart 
may not be bang on the money but he's better than nothing for the period from 
1940 to 1960.

> The earliest discographies 
> in the 30s and 40s were catalog number based and did tend to place 
> records in release order.  Once we worked in matrix number order there 
> was very little interest in release order, although I have occasionally 
> mentioned that the influence of a record on the public can be noted more 
> from release date than recording date.  None of us have thought to use 
> something like Goldmine's Standard Catalog of American Records!  Looking 
> at it there is some basic info of year of release of copies on different 
> label formats and this would show when an (e) first came out, but we 
> don't trust their research, do we!!!!!!

We don't trust Whitburn either, but he had to base his fake charts and dates on 
SOMETHING, even if it was reports in Billboard which were probably hyped by the 
reporting record dealers. It still gives a rough idea of when a given record 
was on the market. Once there are dates for "first charting", you're probably 
within a couple of weeks of the disc's first appearance on the market. It's 
also interesting to check the dates for hits and their cover versions. 
Sometimes they're surprisingly close, so the song pluggers were doing their jobs.

None of this applies for classical, obviously.

dl
> 
> Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com
> 
> David Lennick wrote:
>> S&R Pinsker wrote:
>>   
>>> Will somebody please list the three Toscanini LME discs?
>>> Thanks,
>>> rdp
>>>     
>> LME 2408: DVORAK: NEW WORLD SYMPHONY
>> LME 2409: RESPIGHI: PINES & FOUNTAINS OF ROME
>> LME 2410: MUSSORGSKY: PICTURES AT AN EXHIBITION
>>
>> Apparently they began working on this as early as the summer of 1958, per the 
>> article (by Jack Arthur Somer, the RCA engineer charged with the project).
>>
>> dl
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