[78-L] Got too much money kicking around? Lookee here..

joe@salerno.com jsalerno at earthlink.net
Fri Nov 21 09:17:46 PST 2008


Of course if someone did want to "counterfeit" a record, all they would 
need to do is "paste" the good label to the junk record in photoshop and 
offer it on ebay. You win, you pay, you get nothing.

joe salerno


David Lennick wrote:
> Steven C. Barr wrote:
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <soundthink at aol.com>
>>> You don't even need to play it. Vocalions had the master and take 
>>> information on the run-off groove.
>>> Cary Ginell
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Taylor Bowie <bowiebks at isomedia.com>
>>> I did hear a while back something about Robert Johnson labels being 
>>> affixed
>>> to some inconsequential Vocalion of the era.  Of course that would only 
>>> work
>>> if you never played the thing to learn that it was actually by Ray Beagle
>>> and his Hounds of Music or maybe Tommy Tucker.
>>> When things (any things) get to be valuable enough,  there will be someone
>>> out there who will attempt to counterfeit said things.
>>>
>> Fortunately (for RJ collectors, anyway...?!) no one is currently pressing
>> shellac discs these days (if they were, I'd cut a blues record...!). It 
>> MIGHT
>> be possible to affix a colour photocopy of an RJ label tightly enough to
>> LOOK authentic...but considering that 78 labels were affixed as a part
>> of the pressing process, I would doubt that...?!
>>
>> Now, if they were selling for$2,000,000.00...?!
>>
>> ...stevenc 
>>
> Well, paste-over labels weren't unknown even then..sometimes two labels were 
> grabbed and inserted in the press, sometimes a paste-over was added where the 
> wrong label had appeared (or in one notable instance, when someone protested 
> and Capitol had to change the title of a song they'd already recorded and 
> pressed). So a good quality laser-printed scan of an original label could be 
> affixed to a junk disc. I think we can be pretty well assured that this item is 
> the real deal, coming from the late Mike Stewart's collection.
> 
> I once "liberated" a beat-up lacquer disc from a pile of unaccessioned junk in 
> an archive because it had a label promising a Lenny Bruce recording that I knew 
> wasn't on any of his LPs..what I didn't know was that the label had come from 
> the National Lampoon. My liberation was for naught.
> 
> dl
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