[78-L] First real LP

[dlennick dlennick]

And they were starting to transfer to microgroove in 1946, direct from 
the lacquers, doing side overlaps on the fly.

As for first issue numbers, there's also ML 2001, ten-inch. Wieniawski 
Violin Concerto #2, I think.

dl


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  One other thing to remember about "first Lp" issues is the matrix 
numbers, rather than Catalog numbers. I've never seen a listing of the 
records in matrix number order, but the lowest issue numbers were not 
the lowest matrix numbers. All the ones I've seen are at least three 
digits. The 10 inch Lp and 12-inch XLp numbers are intermixed in one 
series.
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  South Pacific was also released simultaneously on Lp and 78. The 
recording session used tape as an experimental backup, but the tape was 
never used until a CD in the 1980s. It was quickly pulled when there was 
outrage that Carefully Taught was incomplete. The replacement used the 
disc masters, but I am not sure if they used the original discs or an 
old tape transfer.
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  To clarify, I Can Hear It Now WAS mastered on tape. Joel Tall was
  credited with the editing in the 78 liner notes.


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    Not sure if I'm getting thjrough to the list this morning. Test 
1-2-3.

    And "I Can Hear It Now" went direct to 78 and LP in 1948.

    Milhaud's "Le Boeuf Sur le Toit" was in the can for aboiut 4 years
  till
    issued on 78 and lp in 1949.

    dl


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      According to Howard Scott at Columbia Records Bruno Walter's
  recording
      of Mendelssohn's  "Concerto In E Minor For Violin And Orchestra 
Op.
    64"
      (Columbia ML 4001) was the first 12'' LP ever released, and Frank
      Sinatra's "The Voice Of Frank Sinatra" (Columbia CL 6001) the 
first
      10''. Both featured reissues of recordings previously released on
    78's.
      At the time of release (1st of July 1948) Columbia had about a
  hundred
      different titles ready for release, so being "the first" albums
  these
      two obviously were first only due to their numbering.

      But what was the first LP release of "original" material, produced
  for
      LP, and previously not released on 78?
      The topic was discussed here in 2004, without conclusion:

      Steve Abrams wrote about US Columbia:

      "I am not aware of any recordings mastered from tape in 1948. 
There
    may
      have been some experiments with tape in '48 but tape was not
      introduced until the spring of 1949, for back-ups."

      And David Lennick wrote:

      "I believe that all of US Columbia's first lps were mastered 
direct
  to
      disc from
      the original 16" lacquers, which contained the original 4-minute
  takes
      recorded
      for 78 issue."

      Perhaps it wasn't Columbia at all who first released an "original
      recording" on LP?

      Kristjan



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