[78-L] AFM ban discography

Jeff Sultanof jeffsultanof at gmail.com.invalid
Thu Sep 3 09:04:06 PDT 2020 

Yes!!

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> On Sep 3, 2020, at 11:30 AM, Ron L'Herault <lherault at verizon.net.invalid> wrote:
> 
> 
> Were record companies able to reissue older recordings during these bans?
> 
> Ron L
> 
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> 
> 
>    Rodger,
> 
>    I'm delving into that era heavily right now. Have been for months.
> Your list looks pretty complete to me. That's quite a few hours of
> work. If I run across any others in the future I'll try to remember to
> post them.
> 
>    Do you happen to have at hand the dates that each label settled with
> the union? I know Decca settled early because they wanted to release
> the "Oklahoma" Original Cast album. I read just yesterday that Decca's
> first single release after the ban was PISTOL PACKIN' MAMA by Bing.
> Evidently the Dexter recording was made before the ban. Was Columbia
> the other label to settle early?
> 
>    I'll never understand why Montreal and Toronto didn't take advantage
> of the ban by recording current songs there. Even Mexico City. And
> what about Honolulu?
> 
>    RayK
> 
>    -----------------------------------------From: "Rodger J Holtin" 
> 
> For almost as many years as I've collected 78s I've been curious
> about the
> records made during the AFM recording ban of 1942-44. While we'll
> probably
> never know what the renegades like Oberstein did during that period,
> the
> records made by singers with acappella-accompaniment for the major
> labels is
> a finite list. 
> 
> With the resource of 
> 
> http://www.78discography.com/ [1] 
> 
> and a little clarification from 
> 
> https://www.avg.com [2]
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> 
> I've made a tentative list which I have pasted in below.
> 
> I've never seen any acappella records on Capitol and the only OKeh
> that I've
> been able to find is one by the Golden Gate Quartet, and I see that
> Ty's
> list has a note on one of them indicating an August 1942 date.
> 
> 
> 
> I listed the Four Vagabonds on Bluebird as the dates indicate they
> were
> recorded during the ban. I finally found a copy of Rosie The Riveter
> and I
> Had The Craziest Dream on 30-0810, but a close listen reveals that it
> has
> some kind of stringed instrument - I'm guessing a tiple. Years ago I
> read
> that somebody got by with that since the tiple was not recognized as
> a
> legitimate instrument by the union. I doubted the story at the time I
> heard
> it, so perhaps I have finally found that one and proved it to be
> correct.
> Haven't heard the other sides, so I don't know about them.
> 
> 
> 
> Have also heard that Petrillo was singularly unhappy with this
> situation and
> called in other unions to stop their members; i.e.: Actor's Guild to
> stop
> some singers, and IBEW to stop the recording engineers. If anybody
> can
> confirm or correct those items, I'd like to know about that, too.
> 
> 
> 
> Any additions/corrections/suggestions, let me know.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Bluebird 30-0810A Four Vagabonds ROSIE THE RIVETER
> D3AB5 1/15/1943
> 
> Bluebird 30-0810B Four Vagabonds I HAD THE CRAZIEST
> DREAM D3AB3 1/15/1943
> 
> Bluebird 30-0811A Four Vagabonds ROSE ANN OF CHARING
> CROSS D3AB4 1/15/1943
> 
> Bluebird 30-0811B Four Vagabonds TEN LITTLE SOLDIERS
> D3AB6-1 1/15/1943
> 
> Bluebird 30-0822A The Four King Sisters MAIRZY DOATS
> D4AB28 5/1/1944
> 
> Bluebird 30-0822B The Four King Sisters ITS LOVE D4AB29
> 5/1/1944
> 
> Bluebird 30-0824A The Four King Sisters San Fernando Valley
> D4VB70 3/22/1944
> 
> Bluebird 30-0824B The Four King Sisters Milkman, Keep Those
> Bottles Quiet D4VB69 3/22/1944
> 
> Bluebird 30-0829A The Four King Sisters The Trolley Song
> D4AB233 8/17/1944
> 
> Bluebird 30-0829B The Four King Sisters (All of a Sudden) My
> Heart Sings D4AB232 8/17/1944
> 
> Columbia 36678 FRANK SINATRA CLOSE TO YOU CO33249
> 6/7/1943
> 
> Columbia 36678 FRANK SINATRA YOU'LL NEVER KNOW CO33251
> 6/7/1943
> 
> Columbia 36679 FRANK SINATRA SUNDAY MONDAY OR ALWAYS
> CO33268 6/22/1943
> 
> Columbia 36679 FRANK SINATRA IF YOU PLEASE CO33269
> 6/22/1943
> 
> Columbia 36682 FRANK SINATRA PEOPLE WILL SAY WE'RE IN LOVE
> CO33250=6 6/7/1943
> 
> Columbia 36682 FRANK SINATRA OH WHAT A BEAUTIFUL MORNIN'
> CO33283=1 8/5/1943
> 
> Columbia 36687 FRANK SINATRA I COULDN'T SLEEP A WINK LAST NIGHT
> CO33368=1 11/3/1943
> 
> Columbia 36687 FRANK SINATRA A LOVELY WAY TO SPEND AN EVENING
> CO33373=3 11/10/1943
> 
> Columbia 36693 GINNY SIMMS SUDDENLY IT'S SPRING HCO965
> 1/28/1944
> 
> Columbia 36693 GINNY SIMMS IRRESISTABLE YOU HCO966
> 1/28/1944
> 
> Decca 18553A The SONG SPINNERS COMIN' IN ON A WING AND A
> PRAYER 71338 5/4/1943
> 
> Decca 18553B The SONG SPINNERS JOHNNY ZERO 71340
> 5/4/1943
> 
> Decca 18554A SONG SPINNERS STALIN WASN'T STALLIN'
> 71337 5/4/1943
> 
> Decca 18554B SONG SPINNERS LOVE IS GOIN' TO BE RATIONED
> 71339 5/4/1943
> 
> Decca 18556A DICK HAYMES & SONG SPINNERS YOU'LL NEVER KNOW
> 71378 5/27/1943
> 
> Decca 18556B DICK HAYMES & SONG SPINNERS WAIT FOR ME, MARY
> 71377 5/27/1943
> 
> Decca 18557A DICK HAYMES and The SONG SPINNERS IN MY
> ARMS 71379A 5/27/1943
> 
> Decca 18557B DICK HAYMES and The SONG SPINNERS IT CAN'T
> BE WRONG 71380A 5/27/1943
> 
> Decca 18558A DICK HAYMES and the SONG SPINNERS I HEARD
> YOU Cried LAST NIGHT 71426AA 6/22/1943
> 
> Decca 18558B DICK HAYMES and the SONG SPINNERS I NEVER
> MENTION YOUR NAME 71425AA 6/22/1943
> 
> Decca 18560 DICK HAYMES & SONG SPINNERS GERTIE FROM BIZERTE
> 71392 6/14/1943
> 
> Decca 18560 DICK HAYMES & SONG SPINNERS THERE'S A STAR SPANGLED
> BANNER WAVING SOMEWHERE 71391 6/14/1943
> 
> Decca 18561A BING CROSBY SUNDAY, MONDAY OR ALWAYS
> L3172 8/2/1943
> 
> Decca 18561B BING CROSBY & DARBY SINGERS IF YOU PLEASE
> L3173 8/2/1943
> 
> Decca 18562A SPORTSMEN GLEE CLUB WHAT DO YOU DO IN THE INFANTRY?
> L3179 8/6/1943
> 
> Decca 18562B SPORTSMEN GLEE CLUB KE-TOKY-I-O L3177
> 8/6/1943
> 
> Decca 18564A BING CROSBY and TRUDY ERWIN with The Sportsmen Glee
> Club PEOPLE WILL SAY WE'RE IN LOVE L3181A
> 8/23/1943
> 
> Decca 18564B BING CROSBY and TRUDY ERWIN with The Sportsmen Glee
> Club OH WHAT A BEAUTIFUL MORNING L3182A 8/23/1943
> 
> Decca 18565A DICK HAYMES & SONG SPINNERS PUT YOUR ARMS
> AROUND ME, HONEY 71433 9/7/1943
> 
> Decca 18565B DICK HAYMES & SONG SPINNERS FOR THE FIRST
> TIME 71434 9/7/1943
> 
> Decca 18566A KAY ARMEN & BALLADIERS HOW SWEET YOU ARE
> 71436 9/15/1943
> 
> Decca 18566B KAY ARMEN & BALLADIERS THE DREAMER 71435
> 9/15/1943
> 
> Decca 18568A KAY ARMEN & BALLADIERS LATER TONIGHT 71437
> 9/15/1943
> 
> Decca 18568B KAY ARMEN & BALLADIERS CUDDLE UP A LITTLE
> CLOSER, LOVEY MINE 71438 9/15/1943
> 
> Okeh 6712 GOLDEN GATE JUBILEE QT STALIN WASN'T STALLIN'
> 33183=1 3/5/1943
> 
> Okeh 6713 GOLDEN GATE JUBILEE QT COMIN' IN ON A WING AND A
> PRAYER 33216 5/19/1943
> 
> Victor 20-1538-A PERRY COMO GOODBYE SUE ?
> 6/20/1943
> 
> Victor 20-1538-B PERRY COMO THERE'LL SOON BE A RAINBOW
> ? 6/20/1943
> 
> Victor 20-1548 PERRY COMO HAVE I STAYED AWAY TOO LONG?
> ? 12/1/1943
> 
> Victor 20-1548 PERRY COMO I'VE HAD THIS FEELING BEFORE
> ? 12/1/1943
> 
> Victor 20-1562 DINAH SHORE w Mixed Chorus NOW I KNOW
> ? -
> 
> Victor 20-1562 DINAH SHORE w Mixed Chorus I COULDN'T SLEEP A
> WINK LAST ? -
> 
> Victor 20-1569 PERRY COMO I LOVE YOU ? 2/8/1944
> 
> Victor 20-1569 PERRY COMO LONG AGO ? 2/8/1944
> 
> Victor 20-1586 DINAH SHORE w Mixed Chorus I'LL WALK ALONE ?
> -
> 
> Victor 20-1586 DINAH SHORE w Mixed Chorus IT COULD HAPPEN TO
> YOU ? -
> 
> Victor 20-1592 PERRY COMO LILI MARLENE ?
> 6/27/1944
> 
> Victor 20-1592 PERRY COMO FIRST CLASS PRIVATE MARY BROWN
> ? 6/27/1944
> 
> Victor 20-1594-A DINAH SHORE w Mixed Chorus TOGETHER ?
> ca June 1944
> 
> Victor 20-1594-B DINAH SHORE w Mixed Chorus I LEARNED A LESSON
> I'LL NEVER FORGET ? ca June 1944
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Rodger Holtin
> 
> 78-L Member Since MCMXCVIII
> 
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