[78-L] Shure M44G vs M44-7

David Lennick dlennick at sympatico.ca.invalid
Sun Apr 9 16:29:36 PDT 2017

Bends, that is. What it does in bed is its own business.

On 4/9/2017 7:24 PM, David Lennick wrote:
> Stantons track very close to the disc, so warps can be a problem there. I often
> have to tilt the whole cartridge a bit to avoid bumping.
> I still love the SC-35 and the styli were very durable..thought to grab the one
> that showed up on eBay last week but didn't.
> Avoid like the plague a piece of garbage Shure made called the N78S. Tracks too
> light, beds at the slightest defect or crack. Plays mint 50s 78s nicely (if
> they've been cleaned) and that's about it. (The SS78E can take extra
> pressure..half dollar on the tone arm, no problem-o.)
> dl
> On 4/9/2017 7:11 PM, Mark Bardenwerper wrote:
>> On 4/9/2017 5:28 PM, Tim Huskisson wrote:
>>> There have been many conversations about 78rpm playback equipment here, and
>>> the preferred choice of cartridge among 78rom record collectors has (from
>>> memory of previous threads) been  either the SHURE M44 or the STANTON 500.
>>> I've ruled out the STANTON 500 due to its known problems with warped
>>> records. So, the M44 would appear to be my preferred choice, but I suspect
>>> modern day M44's are not the same as those produced decades ago and beloved
>>> by 78rpm collectors.
>>> SHURE are offering a model M44-7 and a model M44G. Both appear to be aimed
>>> at the DJ'ing market. The M44-7 is said in at least one review to have
>>> 'enhanced bass'. It's hard enough getting the correct EQ playback for
>>> pre-RIAA 78rpm records without having to also deal with a cartridge that
>>> doesn't produce a flat response. So, I'm sceptical of the M44-7 - but SHOULD
>>> I BE? Or would the M44G be a better choice?
>>> There is also a SHURE model SC35C which is supposed to be a copy of the
>>> original SC35 that was once the preferred choice of the BBC.  But again, I
>>> suspect the current SC35C model is a far cry from what the BBC were using
>>> back in the 1970's.
>>> SHURE also offer a dedicated 78rpm cartridge M78S which appears to be a MONO
>>> version of the SC35C. I don't want MONO forced on me, because any audio
>>> restoration I choose to do is helped by the ability to work separately on L
>>> & R channels. But since the (dedicated 78rpm cartridge) M78S is a mono
>>> version of the SC35C, perhaps the SC35C would be a better choice than either
>>> of the M44 models.
>>> They are all listed here: http://www.shure.com/americas/products/phono
>>> Can any list members offer their opinions of these current SHURE models?
>>> That is the M44-7, M44G, and the SC35C.
>> This is the first time I heard of Stanton 500 warped record indictment.
>> Read here. Carts are no better than their syli.
>> http://www.esotericsound.com/CartStyli.htm
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