[78-L] About record sleeves

Thomas HENRY thomashenry81 at gmail.com.invalid
Thu Nov 24 02:23:34 PST 2016


Hello everyone,

Thanks for these interesting messages.
I'm also quite fascinated by these dealer sleeves and started collecting
them some years ago.

I've tried to make some research on this topic but hardly found any written
sources about it, I'll try to find the articles mentioned by Inigo. Based
on my observations and on what I heard from other collectors here in France
(by the way, are your French, Elodie? That's what your name and email
address suggest, even though you're writing from Scotland), I tend to
confirm what you, Kristjan and Inigo wrote. Records were likely re-sleeved
by dealers after receiving them from records companies. I also came across
several examples of the same sleeve with a standard Pathé design on the
back side (a drawing of the Chatou factory) and the printed name of the
dealer on the front side. These sleeves were probably sent by Pathé with a
blank front side so that dealers could print their own information on it.

If you're interested, you can have a look at "Disquaires de Paris", a
website I created last year based on my dealers sleeves and stickers
collection. http://disquairesdeparis.fr/ It is an interactive map
displaying Paris cylinders and records stores starting from the 1890s, it
is still a work in progress and I'm working on an English version. Click on
each point to see the illustration. You'll find many examples of dealers
sleeves (as well as some rare photographs, postcards and advertisements),
like these ones:

http://disquairesdeparis.fr/#disquaire3351
http://disquairesdeparis.fr/#disquaire3471
http://disquairesdeparis.fr/#disquaire4331
http://disquairesdeparis.fr/#disquaire3291
http://disquairesdeparis.fr/#disquaire3391

Kind regards,

Thomas

2016-11-24 10:46 GMT+01:00 <elodie-roy at aliceadsl.fr.invalid>:

>
> Dear Kristjan and Inigo,
>
> Thank you for your illuminating messages and suggestions -- they are
> precious!
>
> I will be searching for the articles which appeared in 'For the Record'.
>
> It is interesting to look at the Swedish cardboard sleeves; I was
> especially taken by the advertisement for Eric Nillson's shop, which would
> sell a mix of music, photographic equipment, radio sets and tennis gear
> (!).... I like how these sleeves allow us to retrace a kind of primitive
> 'biography' of the record, or at least to learn in which kind of
> environments it was fist distributed. From looking at my British sleeves, I
> see that records were often sold in cycle shops... but I also found
> references to shops selling 'records and electric shades' for instance...!
>
> I wonder whether this practice of re-sleeving also took place outside
> Europe (broadly defined)....
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Elodie
>
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>
>
> Some Swedish cardbord sleeves for record stores (some labels also used
> cardbord):
>
> http://www.tradera.com/item/2106/269834504/1-st-omslag-
> till-stenkaka-appeltoffts-kalmar
> http://www.tradera.com/item/2106/266492390/1-st-omslag-
> till-stenkaka-a-b-w-mattson
> http://www.tradera.com/item/2106/266492481/1-st-omslag-
> till-stenkaka-b-o-radio-malmo
> http://www.tradera.com/item/2106/266492432/1-st-omslag-
> till-stenkaka-eric-nilsson-eskilstuna
> http://www.tradera.com/item/2106/266492433/1-st-omslag-
> till-stenkaka-waidele-goteborg
>
> Kristjan
>
>
> On 2016-11-23 22:15, Inigo Cubillo wrote:
> > I too bid for the re-sleeving at the record shops. Elodie, being in
> > Scotland, I bet you are talking about those marvelous thick cardboard
> > sleeves with advertisements of every record or music dealer, record
> > arcades and the like, you have in GB. I strongly recommend you to
> > check the articles about British record sleeves in 'For The Record',
> > the journal of CLGPS. These were titled 'Covers Covered', and had
> > photos and some talking about many of these sleeves. Dunno if they're
> > still running that series... I'll check right now... No. They were run
> > by the late Tom Little, who passed away just one year ago. Good bless
> > him! He started this series in spring 2005 (FTR no 13) calling the two
> > first articles 'Sleeve Search'. No 3 was the first to be renamed as
> > 'Covers Covered'. I quitted from CLGPS in 2008, due to involuntary
> > circumstances, but have resumed membership recently, just to find some
> > of the veteran members and active collaborators have recently passed
> > away... I also collect British records as they fall in my hands, and
> > have also a nice bunch of those heavy covers. I keep them in boxes,
> > apart from the records, but have also plans to maybe reproduce them on
> > new paper covers for daily use. A scanner and a good printer would do
> > the marvel! Saludos, Iñigo
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