[78-L] California Ramblers Edison mystery

[Joe Salerno]

Because they issued all, and probably that he didn't get fussed over 
like an aristocrat, and that they took so long to get records issued.

Or so I've read.

Joe Salerno

On 2/24/2016 12:51 PM, Rodger Holtin 78-L wrote:
>
> Was he chapped that they issued all the takes or that they left some in the can?
>
> Sent from my iPhone, which explainz any bad typjng and nonsensical word choices.
>
>> On Feb 24, 2016, at 8:54 AM, Joe Salerno <jsalerno at collector.org.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>
>> In the classical world it is well known that Rachmaninoff's 1919 DDs
>> were all issued (except 4 sides, for some reason, apparently). This is
>> one reason he left TAE and went to Victor.
>>
>> Joe Salerno
>>
>>> On 2/23/2016 8:33 PM, Rodger Holtin wrote:
>>>
>>> I really appreciate all you guys jumping in on this one.  Sure learned a
>>> lot.
>>>
>>> I thought I had heard/read that Edison usually deliberately issued all three
>>> takes, possibly so stampers would not wear out.  In spite of how uncommon
>>> Edison jazz records are, looks like they all got issued for this one - and
>>> turned up in the hands of collectors who could/would share them - and
>>> possibly a fourth, depending on the source of the Biograph.  I admit I can't
>>> tell.
>>>
>>> We learned that the California Ramblers really were a polished, precise
>>> performance group and that it is more than possible, indeed likely, that
>>> some of the hot jazz soloists polished their solos from time to time.
>>>
>>> We learned that Sweet Man was more than a one-of tune for the California
>>> Ramblers since it turned up on more labels other than Edison.  (I was going
>>> by Rust's 1972 list of California Ramblers/Golden Gate.)  I had seen those
>>> other band names listed in Abrams, but I'm not up on my Kirkeby-Lanin-Mills
>>> house names like some of you guys are.  And I'd love to hear all those, too!
>>>
>>> And, finally, I suppose, I learned that they could turn out first rate jazz
>>> even without big names like Nichols and Dorsey, who apparently had vacated
>>> before this was cut.  This record remains a favorite, and maybe moved up a
>>> few points as a result of intense listening.
>>>
>>>
>>> Rodger
>>>
>>> For best results use Victor Needles
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Here's what I believe are takes A and B of Sweet Man by the Golden Gate
>>> Orchestra:
>>>
>>> A: https://app.box.com/s/2umji5qpivga1wijc3cei0aovktywwcc
>>> B: https://app.box.com/s/4s7afsg2fcywtezts43epyoq46rc3hqz
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