[78-L] California Ramblers Edison mystery

Joe Salerno jsalerno at collector.org.invalid
Wed Feb 24 06:54:41 PST 2016


In the classical world it is well known that Rachmaninoff's 1919 DDs 
were all issued (except 4 sides, for some reason, apparently). This is 
one reason he left TAE and went to Victor.

Joe Salerno

On 2/23/2016 8:33 PM, Rodger Holtin wrote:
>
> I really appreciate all you guys jumping in on this one.  Sure learned a
> lot.
>
> I thought I had heard/read that Edison usually deliberately issued all three
> takes, possibly so stampers would not wear out.  In spite of how uncommon
> Edison jazz records are, looks like they all got issued for this one - and
> turned up in the hands of collectors who could/would share them - and
> possibly a fourth, depending on the source of the Biograph.  I admit I can't
> tell.
>
> We learned that the California Ramblers really were a polished, precise
> performance group and that it is more than possible, indeed likely, that
> some of the hot jazz soloists polished their solos from time to time.
>
> We learned that Sweet Man was more than a one-of tune for the California
> Ramblers since it turned up on more labels other than Edison.  (I was going
> by Rust's 1972 list of California Ramblers/Golden Gate.)  I had seen those
> other band names listed in Abrams, but I'm not up on my Kirkeby-Lanin-Mills
> house names like some of you guys are.  And I'd love to hear all those, too!
>
> And, finally, I suppose, I learned that they could turn out first rate jazz
> even without big names like Nichols and Dorsey, who apparently had vacated
> before this was cut.  This record remains a favorite, and maybe moved up a
> few points as a result of intense listening.
>
>
> Rodger
>
> For best results use Victor Needles
>
>
>
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> Here's what I believe are takes A and B of Sweet Man by the Golden Gate
> Orchestra:
>
> A: https://app.box.com/s/2umji5qpivga1wijc3cei0aovktywwcc
> B: https://app.box.com/s/4s7afsg2fcywtezts43epyoq46rc3hqz
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